Notice of Levy / Levy

[charlesa6]

Yeah, as is stated.

[SKYGZR]

If the "Entity" Blindly "accepts" the NFTL, all this is mute.
Speaking from "experience/instigation". "Employer" even signed and send a letter (of which I composed), no matter..no response, nothing.

One may decide to "sue", yet finding an "honest" Article IV "judge" is IMPOSSIBLE, let alone a real Article III court with which to find "justice".

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by SKYGZR

If the "Entity" Blindly "accepts" the NFTL, all this is mute.
Speaking from "experience/instigation". "Employer" even signed and send a letter (of which I composed), no matter..no response, nothing.

One may decide to "sue", yet finding an "honest" Article IV "judge" is IMPOSSIBLE, let alone a real Article III court with which to find "justice".

Without Prejudice.
Consider that United States citizens might be presumed to be attorned by the U.S. Attorney General, and citizens of States of the United States of America might be presumed to be attorned by the States attorneys, and, that 'Employees' might be presumed to be attorned by the attorney, if any, of the corporation by which they are 'employeed'.

[PANICPASS]

David Merrill wrote: I have not heard that a notice of lien is required before a levy on wages can occur.

On the first page of form 668-W (Notice of Levy), it states that:

"The Internal Revenue Code provides that there is a lien for the amount shown above. Although we have given notice and demand required by the code..."

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

David Merrill wrote: I have not heard that a notice of lien is required before a levy on wages can occur.

On the first page of form 668-W (Notice of Levy), it states that:

"The Internal Revenue Code provides that there is a lien for the amount shown above. Although we have given notice and demand required by the code..."

Thank you for that. I thought a Notice of Levy could cure independently of the Notice of Levy. I suppose that since they seldom if ever provide that lien or even the Notice of Lien with the Notice of Levy to employers, brokers and bankers, I formed an erroneous presumption.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[cz3000]

It would seem as though some notice of claim (the lien) would have to be exist before they just 'steal it.'

[PANICPASS]

It would seem as though some notice of claim (the lien) would have to be exist before they just 'steal it.'



The lien does exist, but only as a Notice, not as an actual lien. The IRS will always refer to the Notice of Federal Tax Lien as the only record of the lien.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

It would seem as though some notice of claim (the lien) would have to be exist before they just 'steal it.'



The lien does exist, but only as a Notice, not as an actual lien. The IRS will always refer to the Notice of Federal Tax Lien as the only record of the lien.

The attorneys there and everywhere are simply capitalizing on common law process as though it is private intellectual property of the Bar. If Notice cures, it can be treated as a lien. That is the importance of Refusal for Cause (timely).

[PANICPASS]

Where do you get the idea that attorneys are responsible for the process IRS uses to perfect its liens is private intellectual property of the bar?

The fact of the matter is, IRS doesn't use any legal or lawful process to perfect any of its liens. Their Notices are created out of thin air not based on any of their own rules and procedures.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by PANICPASS

Where do you get the idea that attorneys are responsible for the process IRS uses to perfect its liens is private intellectual property of the bar?

The fact of the matter is, IRS doesn't use any legal or lawful process to perfect any of its liens. Their Notices are created out of thin air not based on any of their own rules and procedures.

That is an illusion. However the Notices are cured by common law in admiralty... so that part is correct. People go to non-law Title 26 and try binding the attorneys/Treasury to that nonsense and generate a lot of heat getting nowhere huh?

If a notice is published then forfeiture follows unless the process is quashed by a timely Verified Statement of Right or Interest.

Over 20 accounts related to one professional trustee alone were swept clean by this warrant:

http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images...s/Warrant1.gif
http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images...s/Warrant2.gif

That is lawful process. Notify the people through the local newspapers that their abandoned funds have been found so they can come make a claim and get back what they deserve after the Treasury has assessed their tax liability for them.

If things were in fact of the matter the way you say, then there is nothing anybody can peacefully do anymore. So you might as well just close down suijuris, nobody is making a change anyway!



Regards,

David Merrill.