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Old 08-04-2004, 04:23 PM
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REPUBLICANS PLAN PUSH FOR ELIMINATION OF IRS

" A domestic centerpiece of the Bush/GOP agenda for a second Bush term is getting rid of the Internal Revenue Service, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.



The Speaker of the House will push for replacing the nation's current tax system with a national sales tax or a value added tax, Hill sources tell DRUDGE.



"People ask me if I’m really calling for the elimination of the IRS, and I say I think that’s a great thing to do for future generations of Americans," Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert explains in his new book, to be released on Wednesday. "



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I saw this article on drudgereport.com, and was wondering what the chances of this happening were... also I hear the republicans want to make private accounts out of SS. Maybe all these changes will give people a second chance to opt-out of the SSS.
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Old 08-04-2004, 05:25 PM
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As for elimination of the IRS and the income tax, that's been talked about for years. The big secret is that between 50-60 million people have stopped volunteering to self-assess themselves and this can only get worse. Building a new system, which will attempt to get those people paying again (in some fashion) is the probable way they'll fix it. Their reign of terror over the years has only increased the number of people who are fighting them.
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Old 08-04-2004, 10:28 PM
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The IRS can never admit that they have been scamming the people, and collecting taxes illegally for years. they would have to pay back billions and billions with interest. The only way they can stop the whole farce (because I think the jig is finally up) is to to make it look like they are doing the people a favor. Whatever- I hope that it will be over someway. I'm tired of dealing with them, and having to deal with the letters and demands etc. When Bush ran for election the first time, in one of the debates he said that he wanted to get rid of the IRS and having to file taxes.
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Old 08-04-2004, 11:44 PM
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REPUBLICANS PLAN PUSH FOR ELIMINATION OF IRS

I'm going to disagree and say that they have not been scamming people, but we have not been smart enough to cancel our contract of servitude, until now. If some moron next door was dumb enough to give me $100.00 every month for no reason, I'd take it until he smartened up and stopped paying it.



The great thing is though that Sovereigns are NOT responsible for the Debt the Govt. has run up, that's what the Citizens(taxpayers) are for, and if the they keep losing them at the current rate, Bush is going to have to put in a lot of hours at McDonalds to pay back the Foreign Banks. The Debt is a bull**** # anyways, all the money was made up. Who's stupid enough to pay back made up money?
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Old 08-05-2004, 04:57 AM
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The same people that are stupid enough to give all their wealth to a banker... like the idiots that have been voted into office by the idiots at the voting booth... all of whom have been scammed and "directed" towards their doom.



Have you ever heard that "ignorance is bliss"?? All those that came before us were ignorant and couldn't make sound decisions because of that ignorance. And we find ourselves in this predicament. But what is really screwed up is that in todays uSA their isn't any need for any to be ignorant of the facts... but when you demonstrate the facts -- people refuse them and opt to be "ignorant".



And they tend to forget that "Ignorance has consequences".



Maybe we should just start telling that truth to those that we know are hiding from it.
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Old 08-05-2004, 08:05 AM
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<font color = purple>[b] True, but the challenge is to speak the truth in love no matter what it is. When talking to these people, it must be kept in mind that these people have been raped mentally, ideologically & politically; and you are the rape counselor.
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Old 08-05-2004, 11:47 AM
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"The only way they can stop the whole farce (because I think the jig is finally up) is to to make it look like they are doing the people a favor. "



THIS IS A GREAT POINT. THEY ALWAYS MAKE IT SOUND LIKE WE THE PEOPLE ARE BEING SERVED.

WHAT A LOAD OF B.S.



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Old 08-05-2004, 02:10 PM
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The National Sales Tax is another monstrous lie in the making. Anything proposed by BB/The King as being "easier" or, my personal favorite, "fairer" is for his benefit, not yours. Everyone needs to get that through their heads.



Advantages of a National Sales Tax for the King:



1. Easier Collection

A. Point of Sale Collection - No herding the sheeple into the shute every April 15th.

B. Americans forced into becoming tax collectors, i.e., spies, against themselves.

C. Former IRS agents will be retrained to "monitor", i.e, intimidate/extort, and make field visits to businesses. Imagine unleashing that hoard on businesses? Large businesses will immediately knuckle under, as they do on everything else having to do with the KIng. Small and mid-size businesses will be the primary target. It's one thing to be able to assert your rights as an individual, legal non-taxpayer. As a small business, however, you have much more to lose when your life is invested in your business. Faced with being put out of business, eventually they too will give in.



2. Easier Administration for the KIng

A. No paperwork - all fully automated - The King's computers will sweep through the computers of sellers at the close of business every day (large stores like WalMart--they already do!) and perhaps weekly or bi-weekly for smaller concerns.

B. Growing online sales will be a snap to track.

C. Instantaneous, real time auditing. Once they push through a National ID card, ALL of your purchaes will be tracked. Analysis of your lifestyle will be instantaneous and in real time. Any numbers that don't conform to BB's metric will immediately trigger an investigation (Hmmm...Johhny Jones seems to have too many toys based on how low his purchases/sales taxes are. He must doing business on the black market.)



All of this means more of your hard earned dollars in his coffers. Oh, and don't forget, they'll start out with something "fair and reasonable" like a 10%-15% rate. But then watch it go to 20%-25% in no time. European VATs are as high as 25%, and they're not done yet.



It's not all bad news folks. A strong(er) black market will develop and barter will blossom. A National Sales Tax rewards entrepreneurship and spanks the sheeple...economic Darwinism at work.



Eventually, however, BB and his minions of mendacious mediocres will figure out how to stomp out entrepreneurship in their never ending effort to make us all cogs in the machine. It is human nature: those who cannot compete attempt to subjugate by coercion and force those who would otherwise eat their lunch. A story as old as Babylon. As old as creation, unwilling hosts and unrelenting parasites.



The King and BB are contenct with taking two steps forward and one step back. What the heck, the IRS worked better than they thought for a 100 years. They had a good run. Now it's time for something new. Something that will take the younger, even more poorly educated better indoctrinated) generations another 100 years to figure out. That is, if they are ever motivated enough to do so.



The King and BB know that eventually they'll get what they want. If you want to see what this country will look like in 20 years, look to Europe, particularly Germany. If you want to see what we looked like 20 years ago, look to China.



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Old 08-05-2004, 09:06 PM
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REPUBLICANS PLAN PUSH FOR ELIMINATION OF IRS

Sorry, but the Jig is definately NOT up. We are simply at the next in a repeating series of crossroads.



http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/



VERY enlightening article if you think that this first time this has happened at that the "JIG " is up.
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Great post B, I was thinking along those same lines.



The National Sales Tax and ID Card could all tie in together to create a situation that has been the center of much discussion and prophecy.



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