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Sorry MRG for not posting url with my last post, but I was talking previously about the Articles of Agreement for the IMF and did previously post url. That last post did, however, use quotations, which usually denotes that the writing within the quote marks are not to be construed as that of the poster.
The point of the material, as far as I am concerned, is the fact that the IMF does not pay the Secretary as in a payroll check. They do re-imburse the governors for expenses associated with making it to the meetings.
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10-19-2006, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mrg
Weiss, you asked for something, you got what I could come up with.
That is all I was on for.
Whatever the others are on about I do not know, maybe that is also helpful.
I am out of this one.
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Bro, you are responding to a post that wasn't by me, my man
I've only posted twice
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10-19-2006, 08:11 PM
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If the IMF is a non-organization, as David puts it, then there is no need for any of us to focus any further attention to its' existence. On the otherhand, if it is still in fact an 'organization', then yes, we need to address the issues that are relevant.
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Swiftknight spun that. I said the Club de Paris is a non-organization.
http://www.clubdeparis.org/en/presen...?BATCH=B01WP01
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David Merrill.
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10-19-2006, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776
Bro, you are responding to a post that wasn't by me, my man
I've only posted twice
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You're right.
My apologies for that.
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10-20-2006, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776
does anyone have the exact black letter law language of the senate reports and public laws listed above which can be cited word for word that the Sec [of the Treasury] is the gov?*
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No such black letter law. The IMF was created by the Bretton Woods Agreement in 1944, and US participation was ratified by an Act of Congress in 1945. The IMF currently consists of 184 countries. Each member country sends a "governor" and one or more "executive directors" as representatives in the IMF. The IMF governors usually meet just once a year and the rest is handled by the directors. It is usual for each country to send its highest ranking financial minister as its governor.
The 1945 Act of Congress says that the President will appoint and the Senate confirm the US governor and directors to the IMF. It also says that the US governor and directors will serve 5 years terms (and without pay) - so it is possible that the appointees of one President will carry over during the entire term of the subsequent President even though none of them will have a govt position in the new Administration.
The US law does say that the US representatives on the IMF will all take their marching order from whoever is the current US Secretary of the Treasury. Additionally Congress has passed more recent amendments articulating certain positions that the US reps on the IMF must take, such as requiring them to oppose any IMF project to assist a country that supports terrorism or narcotics traffic.
The current Managing Director of the IMF, its highest office, is the Finance Minister of Spain.
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10-22-2006, 08:57 AM
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Here's s'more references which need more investigation:
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Originally Posted by The Informer
It's in 60 Statute 1400 et sec and in the Government Manual* 1994/95 at page 390,* 22 USC 262,* The GAO*Report* June 1987 Counterterrorism, The case of Mendero vs the World Bank, Senate Report 94-1148, Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents Feb 1, 1993 Vol 29 No. 4*, pages 113 & 114, United States Government Manual 1990/91 page 480 22USC 285 et sec.* And the fact that in the Robert Kahre case, which I testified as*an expert witness, the attorney for the IMF through testimony admitted so.** So now you have a bunch of irrefutable evidence to prove to yourself that not only the so called Sec of Treasury, but the Attorney general of the US is also foreign agents holding that office as a ploy so the people have no clue who controls them.* The attorney gerneral is the front man for Interpol and second in line to take over for the Secretary should he die and cannot fill the IMF governorship.* See how ignorant all people are of who actually run the private corporation called the United States?*You had no idea where to look as does 99.9 percent of the people of America.* They post it for all to see but they are too ignorant to know where to look.* It is only the few researchers, I mean real researches that know where to look because we are not dumbed down by their educational system and were the mavericks wghen taught that did not beleive all we were taught.
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10-22-2006, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
No such black letter law. The IMF was created by the Bretton Woods Agreement in 1944, and US participation was ratified by an Act of Congress in 1945. The IMF currently consists of 184 countries. Each member country sends a "governor" and one or more "executive directors" as representatives in the IMF. The IMF governors usually meet just once a year and the rest is handled by the directors. It is usual for each country to send its highest ranking financial minister as its governor.
The 1945 Act of Congress says that the President will appoint and the Senate confirm the US governor and directors to the IMF. It also says that the US governor and directors will serve 5 years terms (and without pay) - so it is possible that the appointees of one President will carry over during the entire term of the subsequent President even though none of them will have a govt position in the new Administration.
The US law does say that the US representatives on the IMF will all take their marching order from whoever is the current US Secretary of the Treasury. Additionally Congress has passed more recent amendments articulating certain positions that the US reps on the IMF must take, such as requiring them to oppose any IMF project to assist a country that supports terrorism or narcotics traffic.
The current Managing Director of the IMF, its highest office, is the Finance Minister of Spain.
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From the 2006 Staff Directory:
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...ill_Page14.jpg
I believe that the higher ups of the IMF are actually the United Nations and its owners...
It behooves us to keep in mind that the Secretary of the Treasury is not paid by the United States, but is paid by the United Nations.
Regards,
David Merrill.
Last edited by David Merrill : 10-22-2006 at 09:14 AM.
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10-22-2006, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
It behooves us to keep in mind that the Secretary of the Treasury is not paid by the United States, but is paid by the United Nations.
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Nothing of the sort. The Secretary of the Treasury is on the US federal payroll. Under the terms of the Bretton Woods Agreement Act, he is prohibited from accepting payment from the IMF.
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10-22-2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
Nothing of the sort. The Secretary of the Treasury is on the US federal payroll. Under the terms of the Bretton Woods Agreement Act, he is prohibited from accepting payment from the IMF.
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Nope. The other way around. As an IMF employee (UN) he is prevented being payed by the US to avoid double salary/compensation.
Regards,
David Merrill.
P.S. To construe the verbiage properly one must keep in mind that the US is bankrupt and held in receivership. That is what the Bretton Woods Agreements was all about Shoonra - bankruptcy.
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10-22-2006, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
one must keep in mind that the US is bankrupt and held in receivership.
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Very important point regarding bankruptcy.
The "Secretary" is the "keeper."
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