Motor Vehicle Crime Or Infraction?

[idknow]

Originally Posted by Friendsplacect

Pardon my confusion, Motor Vehicle cases are punishable by a fine only? is that how it reads?
Anyone?

`Motor Vehicle cases' as you call them are all defined in commerce.

are YOU in commerce? Are you an agent for a corporation?
Are you transporting people, their property or Goods to other corporations for selling?

[Friendsplacect]

NO, NO,NO & NO
Not me, nope
I am Free, but my girlfriend was in trouble so I thought some better understandind of the "Code" might help.

[Codee]

Originally Posted by Friendsplacect

Thanks for the clarification you are the official Code Breaker for me.
So I would assume a challenge of SMJ would do in the State of Connecticut if effectively applied. I have much more studying to do, thank you for your answers.

I do not know a thing about your state other then I posted. I hope you do get a SMJ challenge together. Those are the most powerful of all challenges.

Good Luck.

[libertylane]

If I or any other human being were pulled over due to suspicion and when the police officer came and asked for your driver's license, registration, insurace and you implied that you don't have those items or something of that nature he would immediately get you out of the car and arrest you. I would think you would need to handle your business in the police station simply because a cop is no smarter than any other human being after all he is a cop. The police station is where you would need to show the law and you may even need to take it farther than that. Your car will get impounded and you will get jailed (jail time?). Please understand that I am just assuming and if I am wrong then please correct me. It is hard for me to fathom that an officer will let you go for showing him a homemade ID, law, or anything besides a driver's license, registraion, insurance. Please direct me in the right direction if I am wrong.

[Friendsplacect]

I believe some here have spent time in the slammer in the learning process, one must learn how to be free by themselves. I dont think people are here to give Legal Advice, this is a study group.
My hope in my town is to get pulled over by a Cop I dont know because I wouldn't want to pull a cop I know through the ringer.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by Friendsplacect

NO, NO,NO & NO
Not me, nope
I am Free, but my girlfriend was in trouble so I thought some better understandind of the "Code" might help.

was she transporting, taxi driving, bus driving, property moving, or any other job where she takes direction from passengers?

[Dillon Hunt]

6.l. A California appellate court has held:

A driver is one who "is in actual physical control of the vehicle." ( � 69, Veh. Code.) An operator is one who directs or superintends it. (Bosse v. Marye, 809 Cal.App. 109, 118 [250 P. 693].)

"Operate" has a different definition than actually driving down the road. It includes being in control of a vehicle even if parked and not running at the time of the offense. If one is in the driver's location of a stationary vehicle and has the keys close at hand so as to be capable to put the vehicle in motion, it would be considered "operation" and thereby an offense.

Looks like a company can be considered a driver also.

Dillon

[idknow]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

6.l. A California appellate court has held:

A driver is one who "is in actual physical control of the vehicle." ( � 69, Veh. Code.) An operator is one who directs or superintends it. (Bosse v. Marye, 809 Cal.App. 109, 118 [250 P. 693].)


Section 1. Section 9603 of the Revenue and Taxation Code is amended to read:
9603. "Operator" includes:
(a) Any person engaging in the transportation of persons or property for hire or compensation by or upon a motor vehicle upon any public highway in this State, either directly or indirectly.
(b) Any person who for compensation furnishes any motor vehicle for the transportation of persons or property under a lease or rental agreement when such person operates the motor vehicle furnished or exercises any control of, or assumes any responsibility for the operation of the vehicle irrespective of whether the vehicle is driven by such person or the person to whom the vehicle is furnished, or engages either in whole or in part in, the transportation of persons or property in the motor vehicle furnished.

"Operator" does not include any of the following:

(a) Any person transporting his own property in a motor vehicle owned or operated by him unless he makes a specific charge for the transportation. This subdivision does not in any way limit any other exemption granted by this section.
. . .
(f) Any registered owner of a pleasure vehicle who, while operating the vehicle, transports persons to his work or to a place through which he passes on the way to his work, whether for or without compensation, if he is not in the business of furnishing such transportation. Stats. 1955, ch. 1905, p. 3515-3516.
6.n. West's ANN.CAL.REV. & TAX. CODE (2004), � 9601 reads:

Dillon

I see section 9603.f is legalese for car-pooling, picking up a co-worker on his way to work.

[Codee]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

6.l. A California appellate court has held:

A driver is one who "is in actual physical control of the vehicle." ( � 69, Veh. Code.) An operator is one who directs or superintends it. (Bosse v. Marye, 809 Cal.App. 109, 118 [250 P. 693].)


Section 1. Section 9603 of the Revenue and Taxation Code is amended to read:
9603. "Operator" includes:
(a) Any person engaging in the transportation of persons or property for hire or compensation by or upon a motor vehicle upon any public highway in this State, either directly or indirectly.
(b) Any person who for compensation furnishes any motor vehicle for the transportation of persons or property under a lease or rental agreement when such person operates the motor vehicle furnished or exercises any control of, or assumes any responsibility for the operation of the vehicle irrespective of whether the vehicle is driven by such person or the person to whom the vehicle is furnished, or engages either in whole or in part in, the transportation of persons or property in the motor vehicle furnished.

"Operator" does not include any of the following:

(a) Any person transporting his own property in a motor vehicle owned or operated by him unless he makes a specific charge for the transportation. This subdivision does not in any way limit any other exemption granted by this section.
. . .
(f) Any registered owner of a pleasure vehicle who, while operating the vehicle, transports persons to his work or to a place through which he passes on the way to his work, whether for or without compensation, if he is not in the business of furnishing such transportation. Stats. 1955, ch. 1905, p. 3515-3516.
6.n. West's ANN.CAL.REV. & TAX. CODE (2004), � 9601 reads:

Dillon

All of this is put into a much bigger context on "Cody's Right to Travel" It is Also in Shall Shall Shall Already so triple posting or quadruple postnig it seems a waste. Just go to those threads and read up.

[Friendsplacect]

My girlfriend doesnt have the Mental Capacity to challenge SMJ. I will be the first to admit that im as dumb as nails, but she is completely clueless, I feel for her though because the Public Pretenders try to rush you right into A/R even for "traffic crimes" and codee thanks for the (Legal information for the layman acting in propria persona.) ill be busy for a while reading that stuff.