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Old 11-16-2006, 07:19 PM
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Officer which Operator’s License ?

These are some of the State Business Operator’s License Application Categories found in the States, need I say more.

Auction House Operator’s License Application

Tobacco Tax Operator's License Application

Alcohol Beverage Retailers Operator’s License Application

Outdoor Advertising Operator’s License Application

Private Patrol Operator's license Application

Alarm Company Operator's License Application

Warehouse Operator’s License Application

Driving School Operator's License Application

Ambulance Operators License Application

The list goes on…

I wonder if a Driver Operator’s License Application is a States Corporate Application for the Business of Driving? If not it is the ONLY exception.

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Service of Process

Process is the general term for the legal document by which a lawsuit is started and the court asserts its jurisdiction over the parties and the controversy.

Substituted or constructive methods of service may be used on a defendant who comes within the long-arm jurisdiction of the state. For example, many states permit a plaintiff to serve an out-of-state resident who was involved in a traffic accident in the state by serving legal process on the attorney general of the defendant's state and then sending copies to the defendant at her residence. The statute makes the attorney general the agent for the service of process on out-of-state drivers. Such a statute is based on the theory that a nonresident driver has consented to this method of service by using (you mean doing business, by showing an operator's licence from another state) the highways and facilities within the state.

Who Must Be Served

Where the defendant is not a natural person but a corporation, statutes generally provide for effective service on a managing agent, a director, an officer, or anyone designated an agent in the Corporation's Application for a charter or a license to do business within the state.

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Old 11-16-2006, 07:27 PM
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Where the defendant is not a natural person but a corporation, statutes generally provide for effective service on a managing agent, a director, an officer, or anyone designated an agent in the Corporation's Application for a charter or a license to do business within the state.

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Designate. A key term. NO WHERE IN MY LICENSE APPLICATION DOES IT "DESIGNATE" ME AS AN AGENT FOR ANYTHING.

2) I HAVE NO ARTICLES FOR APPLICATION FOR A CHARTER. THUS THAT WHOLE LINE ALSO IS INAPPLICABLE.

I see the above as a huge misinterpritation of nearly all words in the quote in order to further the notion that driving means a commercial activity. Why not just find the law that says so instead of trying to use all of htis other crud. You will not find the law that makes driving commercial. Those laws have all been repealed and replaced.

Ichecked out what was to be checked out and it had no citations of any kind. Your oppinions will not help anyone SQUAT in court.
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Old 11-16-2006, 07:59 PM
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So by signing a drivers license application with the State they consider the applicant an agent for the business, which is engaged in driving. That is one way they get jurisdiction over the applicant without due process with no injured party.

So the DL application really is a corporate application. The business/license makes it commericial not what is done in the business. All licenses are business licenses/commerical licenses. Someone said It's all comericial!


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Old 11-16-2006, 08:44 PM
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The privilege is for doing business in the state. They say driving is a privilege in the state, that is true if your business is driving, but not true on private property or not having Operators License. Selling Alcohol is a privilege in the state, that is true, but not true for a private business not open to the public except by invitation only, with NDA's (with no business license)


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Old 11-17-2006, 02:49 AM
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Someone should open up a store that sells alcohol or something other item that requires a lisence. When customers go up to the counter, they get told that this is a private store and then are asked if they have an invitation. When they respond with a "no", they are told that they can pick up an invitation at the front of the store.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:36 AM
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Jurisdiction = License

I can send you (no one else) a Private Message saying I have 12 cases of beer I want to sell, Would you like to buy any? You say sure. So I say, send me money and I will send it, along with a nondisclosure agreement. I may never ask you again, it's up to me. (I have no license)

If I have a food selling license and sell alcohol to you and the state finds out I am in big trouble!

If I am not mistaken the stautes on selling alcohol only apply to those persons who have business licenses with the state.

No license not any would be best.

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Old 11-17-2006, 02:00 PM
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So by signing a drivers license application with the State they consider the applicant an agent for the business, which is engaged in driving. That is how they get jurisdiction over the applicant without due process with no injured party.

So the DL application really is a corporate application. The business/license makes it commericial not what is done in the business. All licenses are business licenses/commerical licenses. Someone said It's all comericial!


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Where is any of this found in law?
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Old 11-17-2006, 05:17 PM
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The privilege is for doing business in the state. They say driving is a privilege in the state, that is true if your business is driving, but not true on private property. Selling Alcohol is a privilege in the state, that is true, but not true for a private business not open to the public except by invitation only. (with no business license)


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Dillion, I'd like to adjust your opening sentence by rewriting it to say

Quote:
The license provided by the state is for the privilege (of committing commerce in a state)
doing business within the state, *AND* with the state!!!

The question that then come to mind is

1. why is it illegal to do business with the STATE in the transfer of alcoholic beverages?
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If a driver's license is a license to do commerce on the road then why do people get tickets for driving without a "commercial license" when they have a normal DL?
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Where is any of this found in law?


§ 4511.19. Operation (License means Business = Jurisdiction) while under the influence of alcohol or drug of abuse or with specified concentration of alcohol or drug in certain bodily substances; chemical test; penalties.

G) (1) Whoever violates any provision of divisions (A)(1)(a) to (I) or (A)(2) of this section is guilty of operating a vehicle under the influence of alcohol, a drug of abuse, or a combination of them. Whoever violates division (A)(1)(j) of this section is guilty of operating a vehicle while under the influence of a listed controlled substance or a listed metabolite of a controlled substance. The court shall sentence the offender for either offense under Chapter 2929. of the revised Code, except as otherwise authorized or required by divisions (G)(1)(a) to (e) of this section:

Also

§ 4507.02. Operation without valid license prohibited; multiple licenses; impoundment of plates; restricted plates. Penalties;


(A) (1) No person (Corp.) shall permit the operation of a motor vehicle upon any public or private property (I don’t think so) used by the public for purposes of vehicular travel or parking knowing (nobody can know if we don’t tell them) the operator does not have a valid (maybe means suspended or expired) driver's license issued to the operator by the registrar of motor vehicles under this chapter or a valid commercial driver's license issued under Chapter 4506. of the Revised Code. Whoever (The Corp. that permits) violates this division is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree. (Not the driver)

In Court

I might say Judge, I do not admit Operating (a business) under the influence of Alcohol. Do you have any evidence of this, like an Operator’s License. (Don’t submit to any test) I am not lying when I say this because first I do not admit anything and second I have no Operators License. I turned it in or never get one. (We should not drink and drive, be responsible.)

Remember they think we are doing business with the state because of the operators license!!

Who Must Be Served

When the defendant is not a natural person but a corporation, statutes generally provide for effective service on a managing agent, a director, an officer, or anyone designated an agent in the Corporation's Application for a charter or for (Corporation's Application) of a license to do business within the state.

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