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Old 01-02-2007, 10:14 PM
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codee: Expatriation existed before that act

No it didn't, not in constitutional law.


Under the Expatriation Act you cease to be a U.S. citizen when you take an oath to a foreign state such as is California.

And under the 14th amendment I am a citizen of the US as soon as I am one in California. Der Duh....

You might TRY to explain just why Alaska and Hawaii were shown as states in the IRS code prior to entrance into the union. After statehood these states were no longer listed as states. Why is that, Codee?

You might want to relate the IRS to traffic!!! Are you that dumb! Either relate it to traffic or you are losing the argument

My god I got to show this thread to Big Al. He is going to die laughing.
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:43 PM
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From Codee:
..."win" like in my cases."

Well hot-diggie-dee-dog! I new this BAR SHAM was a revolving door to enhance and profit the attorners, not to
mention their public policy engineer massas.

Why would there be clients, or are they wards, constantly going thru that court and come out "winning"
at the end?

I remember a quote long ago about a "judge" writing that the "legal profession" was a high class racket. Think the name of the book was called, "Woe unto lawyers" or something. Now "Woe" kinda means damn, no?
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:17 PM
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..."win" like in my cases."

Well hot-diggie-dee-dog! I new this BAR SHAM was a revolving door to enhance and profit the attorners, not to
mention their public policy engineer massas.

Why would there be clients, or are they wards, constantly going thru that court and come out "winning"
at the end?

I remember a quote long ago about a "judge" writing that the "legal profession" was a high class racket. Think the name of the book was called, "Woe unto lawyers" or something. Now "Woe" kinda means damn, no?


To be honest your post gives the impression that you are somehow in line with my thinking... but I do not truely understand anything you wrote?

I mean I do not even understand the basic English you used.

Who are you. What was your case? Where did this judge write this? The name of "the" book???? What book? You did not mention a book earlier in your writing.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:18 PM
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I am going to assume that up until now that there has been no real challenge to the method in the thread I started as not beiong the best and most effective way to dealing with traffic violatons.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:30 PM
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SHOW ME HOW ANY OF THIS GETS IMPLIMENTED IN MY SPEEDING TICKET IN CALIFORNIA (THE ACTUAL ARGUMENT,,, LETS HAVE IT. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO WRITE A PAPER OR SPEECH?

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This would be more impressive if you could spell properly.

Hmmm... So I guess that is a "NO" to my question as you did not provide any implimintation practices. OK
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No it didn't, not in constitutional law.


Under the Expatriation Act you cease to be a U.S. citizen when you take an oath to a foreign state such as is California.

Is that treason? Are you a Communist? Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? Do you associate whith known Communist?

Palani, you do understand that the Constitution evolves over years as does all law? Do you even know what Constitutional Law is? Is your theory something that a judge may understand?
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:01 AM
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Expatriation existed before the act!!! That is why the word "expatriation" did not need to be defined in the act. DEr DEe duh!!!!!

The whole constitutional law thing is a curve ball. Let us not forget that common law is due process AND constitutional law. Not just one or the other.


I am going to recomend a book here. Maybe you all just need to hear about it from some other source. The material is from Florida but hte man definitly get my respect. He is the only thing I have read in this so called comunity that is not crap.

"How to win your traffic case" By: James B Woods the 3rd

It really is waste of my time to even continue this without you reading that book first. I am a sucker thouogh when I am the subject of the thread so I will probably just take it to the end anyway.

I hope the $245 he charges isn't too much for ya.

BTW it is not my material but you seem to lack total understanding and this will at least get you up to par. ON ALL ISSUES.

WELCOME INCUBUS to the sui juris forum!!!
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:11 AM
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If Codee has a drivers license then does he have a 'right to travel' or does he have a contract with an insurgent state?

If Codee has a contract (whether the state is insurgent or not) is he violating that contract when he drinks while driving (presumably not water or orange juice)?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS. WHAT DOES THIS IMPLY??? WHY ARE YOU NOT PROVING THIS AT ALL!?!?!?!?!
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:28 AM
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Gee, Codee, I thought anyone who could wade his way through any state code in 30 minutes would instantly recognize the LAW and wouldn't need cites.

Here goes -

The first (on ignorance) is Bouviers' 1856 law dictionary. Not made up at all.

Bouviers is evidense of the law. Not Law itself. This is the stupidity I am talking about. You do not even understatnd the word LAW. CAN I BE CHARGED WITH VIOLATING BOUVIER'S PAGE 231??? NO! IT IS NOT LAW. It is goddamn evidense of law and you are making fool of your self. It is a dictionary entry and it is not LAW as you might pretend it to be. WHAT LAW ARE YOU EVIDENSING WITH IT?!?!?!? WHAT!?!?!?! ARGGG!!!! You are arguing against me specifically who is 28 and has 28 years of legal education. There is not a day of my life that my father was not a lawyer. You just do not get it. There is not a day I was not the grandson of a judge. You do not read law as well as I and you do not understand what is written. You have bought some bad drugs and you are tripping out in UCC fairy land! (Say hi to Roger Elvick,,, seriously.) (Implies my ignorance... OMFG LMFASO)

BTW I acctually won with the UPPERCASE NAME thing once and even I still think it is sterilized cow manurer aka bull $h&t. I would never do that one again.

I would say I would never do what you do Palani but you have yet to actually post anything on how to applie your, hmmm... arguemtns? of law?? I dont know. Maybe that little spill you just gave is the golden ticket. I doubt it will ever help even one person. I await your friends responses in the success story columns amongst my friends posts.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:36 AM
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Expatriation existed before the act!!! That is why the word "expatriation" did not need to be defined in the act. DEr DEe duh!!!!!

The whole constitutional law thing is a curve ball. Let us not forget that common law is due process AND constitutional law. Not just one or the other.


I am going to recomend a book here. Maybe you all just need to hear about it from some other source. The material is from Florida but hte man definitly get my respect. He is the only thing I have read in this so called comunity that is not crap.

"How to win your traffic case" By: James B Woods the 3rd

It really is waste of my time to even continue this without you reading that book first. I am a sucker thouogh when I am the subject of the thread so I will probably just take it to the end anyway.

I hope the $245 he charges isn't too much for ya.

BTW it is not my material but you seem to lack total understanding and this will at least get you up to par. ON ALL ISSUES.

WELCOME INCUBUS to the sui juris forum!!!

Well thank you Codee, that is very nice of you.

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If Codee has a drivers license then does he have a 'right to travel' or does he have a contract with an insurgent state?

If Codee has a contract (whether the state is insurgent or not) is he violating that contract when he drinks while driving (presumably not water or orange juice)?

What if he were to drink before he drove? Would that be different in some way? Is it only legal to drink water or OJ while driving? What about sport drinks or soda? What are you talking about palani? Do you even know?

Are you trying to say that if you don't have a DL it is ok to drink and drive?

What a defamatory statement which adds nothing to this thread.
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