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Old 01-05-2007, 11:07 PM
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I am best know for my travel work so I will post here.

I was engaged in a thread concerning right to travel issues. There was a challenging thread that I took part in. The thread quickly devolved into personal attacks across the board. I took part in those too.

I was weighing my not wanting to give up to arguments that I saw as inherently wrong but then added extra venom in response to what I perceived as a personal attack.

I do not sell my work and I do not care about getting any “followers.” My work here was supposed to be in exchange for benefit of constructive criticism. What I began to get from some members I just could not qualify as more then someone just trying to throw monkey wrenches in the gears. My workflow was disrupted and it made me very frustrated that it was happening. It was the same thing that made me not post on the Internet for the first ten years of my research.

I was not able to find the tools in me or without to stop this. I find many people do not know how to argue the merits of what I write beyond just saying “Well this argument I have is better.” These arguments do not argue against a point that I made in my posts. All they do is you the thread topics I have started to ADVERTISE there view point. I do not know if they are just not getting enough attention for their thread that they start or what... but they always pervade.

In the end Weis took action and cleaned up my thread. I am still thankful for that. But the lack of moderation letting any topic be forced by two arguing members into some alien topic because whatever those members are arguing about shares a key word is absurd. Eventually all we would have on Every thread is David Merrill arguing how refusal is Gold, Jersey arguing for acceptance, and Me going for SMJ. Every topic would be the same argument by the same sections of theory. Not much fun or learning.

I wanted to take a topic that I have down so deep and know inside and out and am only in the very middle of,,, and try to get a discussion going that eventually explores all of this research that I have done but no matter what the topic is... If it does not somehow incorporate 14th amendment citizenship, No money in circulation, Not being a person, UPPERCASE NAME, UCC, then your topic...
WILL ALWAYS BE HIJACKED!!! ALWAYS!

You will never be able to take the conversation where it should go because as readers are following along and sending you PRIVATE messages about PERSONAL disagreements, there are those that want to ADVERTISE their view and offer no counter at all to what you are saying. Their opinion amounts to not them challenging you idea but just showing up and saying... “Well my idea is better.” And that is that. Then they get a buddy or counterpart (DM VS JRB) on there with them and whallah... You are out numbered 2 to 1 and the same people have hijacked your thread again. There is so much prattle in between that no one can follow the original thread. My own brother has a hard time with the threads that way and he knows my stuff better than anyone on here save me.

This type of thing can lead to huge frustration after you have spent MONTHS building a thread just to have someone that no one ever pays attention to just start posting on your thread their own theory not related to what is going on at all, just because they need attention and no one is giving it to them.

I wish my moderator meant something. It never did. Post went astray and it was pulling teeth to get them straight save my last incident with Weis who did act with honor and swiftness to my plights.

The fact is this type of thing requires a change from the admins. I do not see them as interested in this. It would require people acknowledging the author of the thread and the main posters, in that order, as people who have a say in what is and is not productive.

As an author of a popular thread I am so frustrated it is beginning to feel like working in concrete. I cannot find the energy to post right now on this forum under current defacto guild lines.

I just have so much research and stuff to explore and hundreds of leads that I really do not have the time for this type of exchange.

Thank you all for your time and sharing and when I have the energy again, or the mode of moderation changes here. I hope to see you all then.

Until then Thank You much

Cody.

PS. If anyone is still interested in the research you can leave your Email posted here on this thread or Email me at Codee@mail.com
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:26 PM
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I am best know for my travel work so I will post here.

I was engaged in a thread concerning right to travel issues. There was a challenging thread that I took part in. The thread quickly devolved into personal attacks across the board. I took part in those too.

I was weighing my not wanting to give up to arguments that I saw as inherently wrong but then added extra venom in response to what I perceived as a personal attack.

I do not sell my work and I do not care about getting any “followers.” My work here was supposed to be in exchange for benefit of constructive criticism. What I began to get from some members I just could not qualify as more then someone just trying to throw monkey wrenches in the gears. My workflow was disrupted and it made me very frustrated that it was happening. It was the same thing that made me not post on the Internet for the first ten years of my research.

I was not able to find the tools in me or without to stop this. I find many people do not know how to argue the merits of what I write beyond just saying “Well this argument I have is better.” These arguments do not argue against a point that I made in my posts. All they do is you the thread topics I have started to ADVERTISE there view point. I do not know if they are just not getting enough attention for their thread that they start or what... but they always pervade.

In the end Weis took action and cleaned up my thread. I am still thankful for that. But the lack of moderation letting any topic be forced by two arguing members into some alien topic because whatever those members are arguing about shares a key word is absurd. Eventually all we would have on Every thread is David Merrill arguing how refusal is Gold, Jersey arguing for acceptance, and Me going for SMJ. Every topic would be the same argument by the same sections of theory. Not much fun or learning.

I wanted to take a topic that I have down so deep and know inside and out and am only in the very middle of,,, and try to get a discussion going that eventually explores all of this research that I have done but no matter what the topic is... If it does not somehow incorporate 14th amendment citizenship, No money in circulation, Not being a person, UPPERCASE NAME, UCC, then your topic...
WILL ALWAYS BE HIJACKED!!! ALWAYS!

You will never be able to take the conversation where it should go because as readers are following along and sending you PRIVATE messages about PERSONAL disagreements, there are those that want to ADVERTISE their view and offer no counter at all to what you are saying. Their opinion amounts to not them challenging you idea but just showing up and saying... “Well my idea is better.” And that is that. Then they get a buddy or counterpart (DM VS JRB) on there with them and whallah... You are out numbered 2 to 1 and the same people have hijacked your thread again. There is so much prattle in between that no one can follow the original thread. My own brother has a hard time with the threads that way and he knows my stuff better than anyone on here save me.

This type of thing can lead to huge frustration after you have spent MONTHS building a thread just to have someone that no one ever pays attention to just start posting on your thread their own theory not related to what is going on at all, just because they need attention and no one is giving it to them.

I wish my moderator meant something. It never did. Post went astray and it was pulling teeth to get them straight save my last incident with Weis who did act with honor and swiftness to my plights.

The fact is this type of thing requires a change from the admins. I do not see them as interested in this. It would require people acknowledging the author of the thread and the main posters, in that order, as people who have a say in what is and is not productive.

As an author of a popular thread I am so frustrated it is beginning to feel like working in concrete. I cannot find the energy to post right now on this forum under current defacto guild lines.

I just have so much research and stuff to explore and hundreds of leads that I really do not have the time for this type of exchange.

Thank you all for your time and sharing and when I have the energy again, or the mode of moderation changes here. I hope to see you all then.

Until then Thank You much

Cody.

PS. If anyone is still interested in the research you can leave your Email posted here on this thread or Email me at Codee@mail.com

WTF?? Codee!? Codee don't give in that easy does he?
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:38 PM
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Somthing kinda fishy here too! Looks like witch hunt to me, probably went a little something like this:

"To the Constable of Salem
Essex Ss Whereas Complaint hath been made unto us John Ha-
thorne & Jonathan Corwin Esq'rs by severall persons of Salem Vil-
lage that Cap't John Alden of Boston Marrin'r # [that he] is guilty
of Witchcraft in cruelly tortureing & afflicting several of their Chil-
dren & others these are therefore in their Maj'ties King William
& Queen Maryes name to Authorize & Comand you forwith to Appre-
hend the body of the said John Alden and imediately bring him
before us to answer what shall be objected ag't him in that behalfe
and this shall be yo'r sufficient warrant Given under our hands the
st day of May 1692 And in the fourth year of the Reigne of our
Sovereigne Lord and Lady William & Mary now King and Queen
over England &c

P us * John Hathorne
* Jonathan. Corwin }
Assis'ts "

Why are some of you so F'd up? Codee knows his law, what the hell.
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:07 AM
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Codee, please don't go.

We are all just a bunch of different people here and the ultimate goal still is to form an "organic intelligence network" by sharing information and helping each other out.

To All Here: We can not afford to give another win to the NWO by having in-fighting and causing divisions. They win by divide and conquer.

Continue to read and post, you contribute just as much as anyone else here.
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:21 AM
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It's a witch hunt, it's conspiracy, its all worng. They hit NUDSA in the back of the head, then jump Codee from behind! Shame on you Sui Juris! Only freedom I'm seeing here is if you are on the right band wangon. BS!!
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:18 AM
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Sorry to hear you are leaving, Codee. I do hope there were ideas discussed here that you will take time to consider in their entirety. Remember the title of this forum is "Educational & Learning".
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Old 01-06-2007, 07:25 AM
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He is not going anywhere. It's not a banned user, he be back.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:05 AM
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It's a witch hunt, it's conspiracy, its all worng. They hit NUDSA in the back of the head, then jump Codee from behind! Shame on you Sui Juris! Only freedom I'm seeing here is if you are on the right band wangon. BS!!

Incubus, you are spouting off, bro

In case you don't know, there are many members who do not agree with the Nationality Premise

If it was a witch hunt, Codee & NDUSA would be banned users

If they no longer post, it is through their voluntary will

I would be amazed if you were above the age of 21 years old
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:12 AM
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Radio and 'static'

Sometimes I am listening to a great radio program in my car.

As I get out of range, the static comes in stronger and stronger.

If the information is worthwhile, I will bear the static as long as I can still hear the good stuff.

Same here Codee, please keep your program on the air, I will continue to ignore the static.
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:33 PM
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I will try to keep my work comming here somehow...


I need to think on a few things and get format that works for me.

Starting threads does not work "right now" for me. I think I need to do lots of writing and forming before I continue.

I love yu all but I need to stay on track for over 500 posts to get my story out there and so far there is no real way to stop the collateral poster's collateral damage.

I will be through here and the forum will have my pressence. It is just for now it is not working with the controls as they are to do this in a suijuris thread. Maybe later I will have the energy to combat rouge theories as they infiltrate my sream of thought or maybe I will post as articles and upload.

I will always look for those that really need help and are interested. I will not abandon you guys. Taking a little vacation to get my priorities straight.

See you all later.

Good bye.... "for now."

Incubus, Big Al, NDUSA, CharlseA6, Weis, you all have my email and feel free to use it.
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