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Old 03-13-2007, 01:57 PM
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Absent your showing of the above language this law is controlling

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40000.1. Except as otherwise provided in this article, it is
unlawful and constitutes an infraction for any person to violate, or
fail to comply with any provision of this code, or any local
ordinance adopted pursuant to this code.
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Old 03-13-2007, 04:22 PM
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Wait, there is more Space Dust that needs to be whiped off the cover.

Computer programmers know their Code from their code.
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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/foreword.htm
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California Vehicle Code
Foreword

The Department of Motor Vehicles of the State of California is directed to publish and sell the Vehicle Code of California by the following statutory provision:

“1656 (a) The department shall publish the complete text of the California Vehicle Code together with other laws relating to the use of highways or the operation of motor vehicles once every two years. The department, upon written request of any state or local governmental officer or agency, any federal agency, any public secondary school in this state, or any other person, shall distribute the California Vehicle Code at a charge sufficient to pay the entire cost of publishing and distributing the code. With regard to public secondary schools, the quantities shall be sufficient to provide one copy for each driver training and education instructor and one copy for each public secondary school library. In determining the amount of the charge, a fraction of a dollar shall be disregarded, unless it exceeds fifty cents ($0.50), in which case it shall be treated as one full dollar ($1). The receipts from the sale of such publications shall be deposited in the Motor Vehicle Account, with the intent to reimburse the department for the entire cost to print and distribute the Vehicle Code.

(b) The department shall publish a synopsis or summary of the laws regulating the operation of vehicles and the use of the highways and may deliver a copy thereof without charge with each original vehicle registration and with each original driver’s license. The department shall publish such number of copies of the synopsis or summary in the Spanish language as the director determines are needed to meet the demand for such copies. The department shall furnish both English and Spanish copies to its field offices and to law enforcement agencies for general distribution and, when it does so, shall furnish the copies without charge.”

The State Edition of the Vehicle Code contains the text recodified by Chapter 3, Statutes of 1959, as amended by chapters enacted subsequently in the Statutes of 1959 through 2006.

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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/copyrit.htm
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Write/Copyright Information


Where To Write

If you have any comments or suggestions regarding this publication, please send them to:


Department of Motor Vehicles
Customer Communications Section
M/S E165
P.O. Box 932345
Sacramento, CA 94232-3450

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Continuation of Existing Law
2. The provisions of this code, insofar as they are substantially the same <b>as existing provisions relating to the same subject matter</b>, shall be construed as restatements and continuations thereof and not as new enactments.

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References to Statutes
10. Whenever any reference is made to any portion of this code or of any other law, such reference shall apply to all amendments and additions heretofore or hereafter made.


So...is anyone attaching their notice per a Vehicle Code to their Motor Vehicle, as attached on the Bow and Aft of their vessel? Anyone willing to admit acceptance of a patent on said code, and proof thereof?

Shoonra, perhaps the blessed "cop" would be actively searching for someone stealing said use of the code and has every "right" to prevent its misuse, yet first there needs to ascertain an Officer exists and has been given evidence of his authority to authenticate with his fellow Citizen on his quest and the notice given him where the said code may have been used.

Being without need to post, though encouraged to appear on a discussion of an Armiger and his badgery, it's really sadistic that I need to post somthing on this board in response to someone that averts the rule of thumb that process served in any non-negotiable manner as impoliteness or violence is acceptable process. Shoonra, our beloved, may I hear an Amen from you on this? I don't believe anything could be stolen...property can only be misplaced or mistrusted to a certain person as documented or without scribe. Perhaps we can show a "cop" is encouraged to aggresively and violently extract said copyright property if the misplaced trust has caused evidence to be radiated that the Value of that copyright work is being immediatly diminished? There is no need to diminish the value of the window in the vessel or the teeth of the helmsman and driver, when said mis-placed remedy would cause the drawer of the bond on that helmsman and driver to pursue the same reason of faith the "cop" had dertermined.

I don't have a patent on that Vehicle Code of California, and neither that California Vehicle Code because the code itself only references "Vehicle Code" not of any certain nation or state.

You interested Codee, or perhaps you have a Vehicle Code of your own drafted to compete with another's Vehicle Code?

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Old 03-13-2007, 09:02 PM
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I don't have a patent on that Vehicle Code of California, and neither that California Vehicle Code because the code itself only references "Vehicle Code" not of any certain nation or state.

Ummm... section 1 seems to contridict your assertion.

It lets an "ACT" (of the legislature) be known as the vehicle code.

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VEHICLE CODE
SECTION 1-32

1. This act shall be known as the Vehicle Code.

So I would have to say that where vehicle code is used it means this act of the legislature. Now I am not exactly sure what they mean by "this act." I will have to get the original statute. I am guessing that the entire vehicle code was passed as one act and that the act is the entire code.

That process seems a bit unconstitutional however as a statute shall embrase but one subject.
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:54 PM
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I thought statutes, codes, ordinances, rules, all "color of law" pertained only to your "colored name". Why are you even quoting colored law unless you accept the fact that you are what your license says you are
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:00 PM
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I thought statutes, codes, ordinances, rules, all "color of law" pertained only to your "colored name". Why are you even quoting colored law unless you accept the fact that you are what your license says you are

Because everthing you just said is wrong. It is all evidense of law and law.
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Does that answer your question? lol
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:02 PM
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Absent your showing of the above language this law is controlling


Looks like Shoonra is right:
Possession of License
12951. (a) The licensee shall have the valid driver's license issued to him or her in his or her immediate possession at all times when driving a motor vehicle upon a highway.
Any charge under this subdivision shall be dismissed when the person charged produces in court a driver's license duly issued to that person and valid at the time of his or her arrest, except that upon a third or subsequent charge the court in its discretion may dismiss the charge. When a temporary, interim, or duplicate driver's license is produced in court, the charge shall not be dismissed unless the court has been furnished proof by the Department of Motor Vehicles that the temporary, interim, or duplicate license was issued prior to the arrest, that the driving privilege and license had not been suspended or revoked, and that the person was eligible for the temporary, interim, or duplicate license.
(b) The driver of a motor vehicle shall present his or her license for examination upon demand of a peace officer enforcing the provisions of this code.


Misdemeanors
40000.11. A violation of any of the following provisions is a misdemeanor, and not an infraction:
(a) Division 5 (commencing with Section 11100), relating to occupational licensing and business regulations.
(b) Section 12500, subdivision (a), relating to unlicensed drivers.
(c) Section 12515, subdivision (b), relating to persons under 21 years of age driving, and the employment of those persons to drive, vehicles engaged in interstate commerce or transporting hazardous substances or wastes.
(d) Section 12517, relating to a special driver's certificate to operate a schoolbus or school pupil activity bus.
(e) Section 12519, subdivision (a), relating to a special driver's certificate to operate a farm labor vehicle.
(f) Section 12520, relating to a special driver's certificate to operate a tow truck.
(g) Section 12804, subdivision (d), relating to medical certificates.
(h) Section 12951, subdivision (b), relating to refusal to display license.
Well, they still need to prove I am a DRIVER of a MOTOR VEHICLE for this to stick.
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:34 PM
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Well Ready2fiyt,

We come back t othe same thing again.

Can you please show me where “misdemeanor” is said to be a crime and not maybe just some “public offense?”

Because I can show you codes and statutes which declare actions to be “crimes” and not just “unlawful” or “public offense” or “violation” or “no person shall.”
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:46 PM
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Crap...

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Well Ready2fiyt,

We come back t othe same thing again.

Can you please show me where “misdemeanor” is said to be a crime and not maybe just some “public offense?”

Because I can show you codes and statutes which declare actions to be “crimes” and not just “unlawful” or “public offense” or “violation” or “no person shall.”

Oops. Yeah, you got me. Its a long thread and I should have probably read the whole thing before I posted. Looks like I have a little reading to do.

If you haven't already shown that info, it would be cool to see. I just had a run-in today and I refused to give my license to the cop for a couple of minutes cause he wouldn't tell me why he wanted it.

I'll read the thread thoroughly though.

Later mang.
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:59 PM
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Just start looking up the terms I mentioned.
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