04-10-2007, 10:44 AM
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Speaking of Public Access...
What are SuiJuris' thoughts on legally hunting and gathering without placing myself under any jurisdictions?
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04-10-2007, 10:50 AM
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The office of "person"
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Originally Posted by gurion
What are SuiJuris' thoughts on legally hunting and gathering without placing myself under any jurisdictions?
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I would look into two things:
1. Research the office known as "person". There's plenty of information on this site.
2. Research the government code, the penal code, and anything related to fish and game. You can probably find the necessary "loopholes" so to speak.
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04-10-2007, 11:17 AM
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Gabe is correct.
Start with
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CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
Section 25. The people shall have the right to fish upon and from
the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting
upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the
State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the
people the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be
passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon the public
lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water
containing fish that have been planted therein by the State;
provided, that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season
when and the conditions under which the different species of fish
may be taken.
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Notice that this declaration does not acknowledge any rights to person's. (Only to people)
If you find that you do not hold the office of the person.
I would then look into holding the office of the people and the judicial districts that you hold.
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Last edited by rentiap : 04-10-2007 at 11:24 AM.
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04-10-2007, 12:32 PM
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It would seem that restrictions regarding the use of public land apply only to legally incorporated "persons."
Would the people's claim take preference over a "person's" claim?
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04-11-2007, 09:37 AM
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Time for case law and penal codes
OK, let's look into case law.
Gurion:
See what you can dig up on case law, this will be a good place to start.
Also, in California, Government Code Section 201 states that the State can punish for crimes. That's all it says. It doesn't say that the State can punish for infractions, misdemeanors, or anything else other than a crime. So what defines a crime?
Start by looking in the Penal Code regarding punishment for "hunting and gathering" out of season, etc. See if the punishments are infractions, misdemeanors, or felonies.
See where I'm going with this?
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Peace,
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For educational purposes only, not to be construed as legal advice.
No liability assumed, no value assured, without recourse.
He who does not assert his rights, has none.
Oh, and in case you're wondering - the profile picture is really me.
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04-11-2007, 01:38 PM
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Article 1 sec 25...
I agree with Craig... that is where the remedy lies.
My person is protected by it as well.
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04-13-2007, 09:53 AM
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traffic tickets
I've been having problems downloading anything from Suijuris downloads, I plead not guilty recently on a speeding ticket and go to trial next month on the 5th. If a motorcycle cop is hiding where he can't be seen by the public, and using radar, would that fall under "entrapment". I'm trying to keep my license this will be the ticket that I lose it over, if I don't win. YIKES. Plase help. Also I'm looking for the book Cracking the code third edition. Any books for sale out there you know of? Please reply
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04-13-2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MARINDACONWAY
I've been having problems downloading anything from Suijuris downloads, I plead not guilty recently on a speeding ticket and go to trial next month on the 5th. If a motorcycle cop is hiding where he can't be seen by the public, and using radar, would that fall under "entrapment". I'm trying to keep my license this will be the ticket that I lose it over, if I don't win. YIKES. Plase help. Also I'm looking for the book Cracking the code third edition. Any books for sale out there you know of? Please reply
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Hey, I've got a great idea. How about you read the posts on the forum instead of PM'ing everyone and posting replies in the wrong threads. You'll probably get better responses that way.
Or even, better - try researching a little bit.
Will someone move or delete the post?
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Peace,
-Gabe
For educational purposes only, not to be construed as legal advice.
No liability assumed, no value assured, without recourse.
He who does not assert his rights, has none.
Oh, and in case you're wondering - the profile picture is really me.
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04-13-2007, 01:10 PM
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gurion,
Well... here's what my lawbook says:
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. - Genesis 1:26
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. - Genesis 1:28
And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. - Genesis 9:2
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." - 1st Amendment
For HIS Glory,
Akira
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Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor. - Leviticus 19:15
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. - James 2:9-10+12
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04-13-2007, 01:13 PM
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MARINDACONWAY,
Welcome !
Although it's a bit late to start preparing a defense for your traffic ticket... it's not to late to start learning...
Please start a fresh thread in the traffic or court sections.
Akira
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Originally Posted by MARINDACONWAY
I've been having problems downloading anything from Suijuris downloads, I plead not guilty recently on a speeding ticket and go to trial next month on the 5th. If a motorcycle cop is hiding where he can't be seen by the public, and using radar, would that fall under "entrapment". I'm trying to keep my license this will be the ticket that I lose it over, if I don't win. YIKES. Plase help. Also I'm looking for the book Cracking the code third edition. Any books for sale out there you know of? Please reply
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Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor. - Leviticus 19:15
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. - James 2:9-10+12
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