What to say to a police officer when "pulled over" for...

[weishaupt1776]

[b] As a result, I have not gotten a ticket the past 3 times I have been pulled over. I am not going to deceive myself, though.[/quote]LOL! I got my ticket on 9/28/04 & look at the date on this post! Be careful of what you ask for--- you just might get it.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by Weis

As a result, I have not gotten a ticket the past 3 times I have been pulled over. I am not going to deceive myself, though.

LOL! I got my ticket on 9/28/04 & look at the date on this post! Be careful of what you ask for--- you just might get it.

[2501]

I carry one of those at all times (although I should never need it now). I modify it to exclude the presumtion of office (I simply put quotation marks around the word OFFICER to read "OFFICER" for now (define the word on the record)).


I will no longer willingly take on what is rightfully theirs (burden of proof).



I'm doing this after my witness and I realized that after what looked like him reading the notice, 3x total, he ripped it into shreds and stated that he'll take care of himself. After ripping it up he asked what it was.
He was initially told about it (noticed) after a hour of me being pulled over and handcuffed and he's sitting there trying to figure out what to write me tickets for. I told him to take out the folded piece of paper from my stuff you took and read it. I asked him to sign because I was in handcuffs (I'd witness itas received) He says "you want to get arrested? ok, fine I'll arrest you... he then grabs his miranda card and rushed out and around the car to read me) to which I didnot respond...
He did not want that notice or any other n



So to answer the thread. I waited untill I was shure that this guy was leading the ignorant to slaughter. And I wanted to go to a corrupt court and take my chances there with other people witnessing what happened, than sit another minute with that mocking impersonator. He even had called a budy to come and laugh with him at me. The whole time my witness is just out of earshot but visually witnessing it.

They gave him a ride home and told him I wouldn't have been arrested if I had just co-operated. Now If you want to know what I was doing; to the best of my ability I was co-operating. It's just that he didn't like the answers he was getting (truth hurts).

There are a few sites to go to for some of these travel court goody's here they are: www.commonlawvenue.com, www.paperadvantage.org, www.ticketslayer.com, this should keep you busy for awhile. Ticketslayer brags a 95% success rate by using documents to cancel tickets, but have to follow the order of sending the documents. You can cancel tickets, you are supposed to have 72 hours right to refuse contract, unless there was an accident or something, then you're instant criminal.

[leatherlips]

I carry a "Public Servant Questionnaire" in all my means of transportation. You can find it in the forms section of The Great IRS Hoax at familyguardian.tzw.com. It is at the end of the the book at about page 2714. I will reproduce the thing here for those who don't want to look for it.

Public Servant Questionnaire

This questionnaire must be filled-out by any public servant before he can ask the citizen any question. This is authorized by federal law, including the Privacy Act, 5 U.S.C. Subsection 552a, 88 Stat. 1896, et seq., 1974

1 Public servant's full legal name:

2 Public servant's residence address:

3 Name of agency:

4 Name of supervisor and office address:

5 Will public servant uphold the constitution of the United States? yes no

6 Did public servant provide proof of identity? yes no

7 ID number:

Badge number:

Bonding agency and number:

8 Will public servant furnish a copy of the law or regulation that authorizes the action being taken or information requested in this case? yes no

9 Will public servant read aloud that portion of the law authorizing the questions asked? yes no

10 Are answers voluntary or mandatory? Voluntary Mandatory

11 Are the questions being asked based upon a specific law or regulation, or are they a discovery process?

12 What other uses may be made of this information?

13 What other agencies may have access to this information?

14 What will be the effect upon me if I should not choose to answer any or all of these questions?

15 Name of person in government requesting this information:

16 Is this investigation general or special?

Note: by 'general,' it means any kind of blanket investigations in which a number of persons are involved because of geography, type of business income, etc. By 'special,' it means any investigation of an individual nature in which others are not involved.

17 Have you consulted, questioned, interviewed, or received information from any third party relating to this matter? yes no

18 If yes, give identity of all such third parties:

19 Do you reasonably anticipate either a civil or criminal action to be initiated or pursued based upon any of the information which you seek? Yes no

20 Is there a file of records, information, or correspondence relating to me being maintained by this agency? yes no

21 Is this agency using any information on me which was supplied by another agency or government source? yes no

22 Will the public servant guarentee that the information in these files will not be used by any other department other than the one by which he is employed? yes no

I hereby sign and affirm under the penalty of perjury that the answers are true and correct in every particular

__________________________________

Signature of public servant

Notice, If any request for information relating to me is recieved by any person or agency, you must advise me in writing before releasing such information. Failure to do so may subject you to possible civil or criminal action as provided by this act or other law(s).



This form can also be sent to anyone including an IRS agent that wants information from you.

[squirrel]

A friend of mine tried this on a Corporate Owned Person, and they laughed at him, refused to aswer any questions and proceeded to take him to jail.
These antisocial people dont care what you say, they think they are above the law because of the badge they wear, self appointented gods.

[weishaupt1776]

I understand your position, sq, however, if more people did that; ther'd be alot less stops. If more people exposed the fraud in open court merely by asking a few pointed questions without taking a position on so called "laws", we'd see change. The moment those lights start flashing, you've already lost, and the only way to look at it from that point on is that you are now in damage control mode

[leatherlips]

If you give one of these forms to the public servant and he tears it up or refuses to fill it out, that is just another thing you could use against him in court. Officer Big Head, haven't you taken an oath to uphold the law? Yes. And doesn't the form I handed you to fill out have the laws that give me that right on the top of the page before the first question is asked? Yes. So you decided those are laws you don't have to uphold? You can only take information from me, and you don't have to give me the information I need?

I can see this being a problem for a cop on the stand if used with Marc Sevens methods.

[Dillon Hunt]

(For Educational Purposes only not legal advice)
Nondisclosure Agreement
Viewing the Private and/or Confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC creates a copy on the Florida Department of Motor Vehicles random access memory and/or in the hard drive of your computer system.

Your use and/or disclosure of all or any part of the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC constitutes your agreement and acceptance without modification of the terms, conditions and notices set forth within this nondisclosure agreement.

You agree that: (The Florida Department of Motor Vehicles) will not disclose the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC to any individual, third party person, organization and/or government agency without the personal oral and/or written authorization of John Q. Public, with power of attorney to represent JOHN PUBLIC. The private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC includes, (but is not limited too) The Name, Address, Phone Number, E-mail Address, the Social Security Number assigned, Drivers License, Medical Records, Dental Records, Credit History, Criminal Record, if any, Video Images, Voice Records, Finger Prints and DNA Information. If you do not agree and accept without modification the terms, conditions and notices set forth within this nondisclosure agreement, do not use and/or disclose the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC.

You agree, this nondisclosure agreement is exclusively governed by the laws of Florida and the jurisdiction of the Florida courts or an impartial dispute resolving organization in any claims and/or disputes with respect to any unauthorized disclosure of the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC or this agreement. You agree not to access any jurisdiction where this entire nondisclosure agreement is not fully recognized. If all or any part of this nondisclosure agreement is found invalid it will be deemed superseded by an enforceable version that accurately reproduces its original intent.

You agree, with the prior consent of John Q. Public any claims and/or disputes with respect to any unauthorized disclosure of the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC or this agreement may be decided by binding arbitration in accordance to the rules of the American Arbitration Association and any proceedings shall be held in Orlando, Florida. The judgment of the arbitrators shall be final for all persons involved and may be entered into the Florida courts. Any notices sent by John Q. Public shall be admissible in any proceedings in regards to this agreement for JOHN PUBLIC. Notice to the agent is notice to the principal applies to this Nondisclosure Agreement.

You agree that John Q. Public may use and/or disclose your private and/or confidential information for a search warrant or other lawful process to investigate any breach of this nondisclosure agreement or conflict of law, or other lawful requirement. John Q. Public may also disclose your information in regards to debt collection.

Your unauthorized disclosure of the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC on any document associated with JOHN PUBLIC without the oral and/or written prior authorization of John Q. Public is strictly forbidden and chargeable in the amount of one hundred thousand (100,000.00) dollars, per breach. No waiver of a breach of this nondisclosure agreement shall constitute a future waiver of any breach in regards to this agreement.

You agree that John Q. Public may at any time and without prior consent modify this nondisclosure agreement. All Modifications of this nondisclosure agreement must be authorized by John Q. Public

This nondisclosure agreement, constitute the entire agreement between you and JOHN PUBLIC with respect to any disclosure of the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC. This agreement supersedes all prior agreements sent in electronic, oral and written form between you and JOHN PUBLIC with respect to any disclosure of the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC. This nondisclosure agreement shall remain in force and effect for as long as you use and/or disclose the private and/or confidential information of JOHN PUBLIC.

Signed: John Q. Public with power of attorney to represent JOHN PUBLIC All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice
Sent Certified Mail # 1234567 on January 31, 2005 sent to FDMV

Just like when you get new solfware or new job!!!

I have tried this and will see if it plays in court soon. Its good to have a recording device i did not.I will see if they convienently lose the tape. I asked the officer if i was under arrest he said no. I asked am i free to go. Cop sayes no. I said i cannot proceed without assistance of council. the COP said seemly stunned, what? I repeated. He repeated to give him docs. Under fear of life and liberty i complied.I asked the cop if he remembered what i said to him earlier,he said yes.I am going to supeona for tape any cases of seizures in Texas or the Supreme Court of the United States,supeona for cop to testify and an evidentary Hearing. I get the cop on the stand ask him his answers to my questions if he dosen't lie,i ask him if he waited for my assistence of council to come. If he sayes no.then i ask him if he proceeded foward getting evidence from me. If he says yes. I then motion the court for a directed verdict because he violated my constitutionally secured rights to have A of C present,therefore he has no probable cause,and no evidence after i invoke the 5th.Supposedly he must wait for A of C if he proceeds it throws the rest out.To be continued....