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Old 06-05-2005, 11:23 PM
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in563855.shtml

Here is the CBS Story on this tyranny.

I will post more and edit this post.

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Old 06-06-2005, 04:38 PM
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Am I under arrest? No, then go away; I don't want to talk to you. I am? Then I have a right to counsel prior to interrogation; call your supervisor so we can get counsel out here.
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Hi,
If under arrest, do we have the right to a counsel on the spot, or can they haul us to jail first, and let us use the "cell-phone" once?
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Old 06-06-2005, 08:02 PM
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This is the one I heard on the news a few weeks ago
a pregnant woman tasered in seattle in a traffic stop


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/223578_taser10.html

I haven't seen any video on this
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Old 06-06-2005, 08:18 PM
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Just search for tasered and see how prevelant their use and abuse is and many have died.

Bet this cop gets off

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...spital_bed.htm

How do we fight this kind of tyranny?
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Old 06-06-2005, 11:34 PM
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I guess we all need to get tasers and start running around performing citizens arrests on people with broken tail lights and drug problems.

"Give me the evidence I need for a conviction you or I'll fry you, you friggin crack head!"

That is the precident being set... compelled action or shock torture.

Maybe we can use this exciting new non-lethal technology on suspected dirty cops, lawyers, and politicians - just zap them until they give us a confession of their crimes in writing, signed and notorized.

Pretty bad when two big men are unable to arrest a woman without the use of electric shock. Their wives must beat them pretty bad for them to be that scared of women.
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Old 06-06-2005, 11:52 PM
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In Florida they use their new toy on kids too, I think it was a 6 or 7 years old boy a couple of months ago and also a teenager recently as well.
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Old 06-07-2005, 11:50 AM
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Re:About the coeporate COP...

A corporate COP has no authority over men/women,unless another man/woman is requesting his assistance,based on a valid complain.

You can hear that all the time whenever you ask THEM to do something for you.

You have a natural right to defend yourself.

If you want to be treated like a sovereign,behave like one.

We only succeed in numbers!

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Old 06-07-2005, 02:56 PM
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Me [absolutely FIRST thing, when talking to the roadside revenuer]:

"Howdy, Obie.
"Let me ask you: have you ever SEEN your Boss's Official Bond?
[probable response: Click ... whirrr ... strip!]
"Do you think he/she really has one on file?
"Are you aware that if he/she doesn't have a Official Bond on file,
you are not a real 'deputy'?
"Do you know the penalties for the crime of "impersonating a Peace
Officer?"
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Old 06-08-2005, 07:33 PM
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From The Black Truth

The point is not to avoid getting a ticket – or even to avoid
getting arrested. It is to clearly establish that the revenuer is breaking
the law and violating your rights.


If you never establish that you weren’t free to leave, then on the witness
stand the cop can say you were free to go at any time. Such would deflate
any suit for false arrest as it would’ve then been considered a consensual gathering.

At the point of arrest, you are entitled to a higher level of protection
than you are during a minor traffic interface. Read the Terry decision for
help in understanding.

If a simple question irritates the revenuer then you need the protection of probable cause and the higher level of duty of the revenuer anyway.

Besides, nobody said you had to be RUDE about it.

You want to leave nothing to discretion. You must KNOW you are under arrest which is established by evidence, part of which can be the demeanor of the revenuer.
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