Here It Is - Vehicles Not Required To Be Registered - California

[ezrhythm]

RIGHT!!!

Person = An identity that has been created by a human being like on a birth (berth) certificate.
An identity that government departments attempt to attach to human beings in their jurisdiction.

Drive = Commercial term
Motor Vehicle = Commercial term
May be regulated for use on the highway.

Travel = Personal Liberty protected by the state constitution.

[Codee]

Originally Posted by ezrhythm

RIGHT!!!

Person = An identity that has been created by a human being like on a birth (berth) certificate.
An identity that government departments attempt to attach to human beings in their jurisdiction.

Drive = Commercial term
Motor Vehicle = Commercial term
May be regulated for use on the highway.

Travel = Personal Liberty protected by the state constitution.

A person is not created by the birth certificate. The Natural Person is first recognized by the world upon the giving of a name and is developed through experiences nd learning.

[ezrhythm]

Isn't the birth certificate usually the first do***ent that gives one a "first, middle and last" name in which case is creating a "person"?

[Akira-]

Originally Posted by Codee

A person is not created by the birth certificate. The Natural Person is first recognized by the world upon the giving of a name and is developed through experiences nd learning.

Huh?? Come again?

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by Codee

A person is not created by the birth certificate. The Natural Person is first recognized by the world upon the giving of a name and is developed through experiences nd learning.

The CAPACITY (14th amndmt sec 1) of a person is most coitainly created by the BC

[gurion]

In CA, we expect to be asked for our DL, evidence of insurance, and registration. Is insurance only required of "persons" who are "driving" "motor vehicles"?

If I undertsand correctly, I am to replace my license plates with posted notices to the effect that my truck is a private vehicle and not for hire. So, how do I talk about using my truck, registered as "nonop," without placing it under the officer's jurisdiction?

How do I prove that it's my truck, without presenting a BOS, which was registered with the DMV?

If the officer's records don't show that I have dissolved my corporate personhood, will I have to prove the fact that I'm not under the officer's jurisdiction in court? If so, what would happen to my truck in the meantime?

Thanks.

[redy2fiyt]

These are all great questions! A little research under the "Right to Travel" forum through reading older posts will provide you will all of this information.

Here's a little help:

Originally Posted by gurion

In CA, we expect to be asked for our DL, evidence of insurance, and registration. Is insurance only required of "persons" who are "driving" "motor vehicles"?

Correct. If you are not "driving" and you are traveling in your own personal conveyance, thereby not engaging in interstate commerce, the vehicle code is not applicable to you. However, not carrying auto insurance would be a move towards stupidity. Its only a matter of time till you get in an accident. I think Geiko (spelling?) insures unlicensed motorists.

Originally Posted by gurion

If I undertsand correctly, I am to replace my license plates with posted notices to the effect that my truck is a private vehicle and not for hire. So, how do I talk about using my truck, registered as "nonop," without placing it under the officer's jurisdiction?

You have to be confident that you understand your rights. If you own the vehicle outright and it is not registered at the DMV, its yours and the State has no jurisdiction over you. You are not under the jurisdiction of the State for "traveling" in your own personal automobile.

Originally Posted by gurion

How do I prove that it's my truck, without presenting a BOS, which was registered with the DMV?

Obtain the MSO - do a search in the forum for this. There's a ton of information.

Originally Posted by gurion

If the officer's records don't show that I have dissolved my corporate personhood, will I have to prove the fact that I'm not under the officer's jurisdiction in court? If so, what would happen to my truck in the meantime?

Thanks.

Yup and impounded - unless you can effectively assert your rights.

See, you should understand that there are two schools of though floating around here. One is that you have a constitutionally garaunteed right to travel and that this right cannot be regulated by the State. If you choose to go this route, you will more than likely end up spending a night or two in the slammer and getting your truck impounded. Now I'm not saying that it won't work or that its the wrong approach, you just have to be prepared to face the full brunt of the gestapo style police force we have. I think Weis has been through the ringer a few times with some success, as has Craig (Renitap).

The other school of thought would be classified as Codee's right to travel. Codee likes to argue his points in court and basically has a next to flawless track record. There are TONS of holes in the statues and codes and Codee has just about found them all. Check out his lasted post with his court transcript attached. Its great.

Good luck!

[gurion]

I've seen the forum and will study it more.

Thanks for your frankness. I realize that procedure and results are two different things.

So far, to the best of my understanding, most of these maneuverings require me to honor some legal jurisdiction in some sense. (Aren't they a means of practicing law?)

Firstly, even in a private capacity, I would probably be using corporately owned asphalt as my right of way. I feel like allowing myself to be pulled over is recognition of the officer, and appearing before a court would be recognizing it's right to call me there.

[ezrhythm]

If your truck is registered even as a non-op, it also belongs to the State. You will need to take it out of thier system all together.
You may do this by (California) turning in the plates and Certificate of Title to the DMV and state that the vehicle is "junked".
Or you may fill out a Release of Liability and say that the vehicle is no longer in the "State". (Their jurisdiction)
They will ask you for a name and address of who now has the vehicle.
You will have to decide how you want to answer them.
You might just say that the vehicle is no longer in the "State". In which case you would be correct as you are taking it out of their corporate jurisdiction.

I recommend carrying a receipt and not a DMV Bill of Sale. Sell/give your automobile to a family member or a friend, then have them sell it back to you.
I have heard that when you purchase your auto you should pay with United States silver dollars and get a receipt saying so. You might want to have the receipt notorized or signed by at least two witnesses.

If you are stopped by a LEO and you present to them a driver's license, you will be presumed to be in commerce and may be ticketed.
If you don't present a driver's license they will want to see some sort of photo ID. If you don't ID yourself to their satisfaction, (trying to link you to the beast system) they will do what they want to try and link you. They will search your automobile, hold and intterogate you, even arrest you for being an unlicensed driver.
I am making my own Photo ID AFFIDAVIT and having it notorized and recorded with the county.
It will not contain a birthdate but a "born during the year" and it will not contain a SS number.
I will also be notarizing a notice containing, "Right to Travel" court cites and that the notice shall be entered as evidense if I am ticketed or arrested.

Been there, done that twice now with auto towed but not impounded for the customary 30 days.
I believe this is because their has been a lien holder
on the auto. (My friend ;)
1st time, no charges filed.
2nd time, charges of driving unlicensed and impeding and officer filed. Pending arraignment.
Both incidents with sheriffs in two California counties.

[Akira-]

Originally Posted by gurion

Firstly, even in a private capacity, I would probably be using corporately owned asphalt as my right of way.

The people own the roads. Government, as servants, use the peoples assets to maintain the peoples roads, ect.