How do I avoid registering my car?

Without a BOS you do not have too much going for you .. The truck's title is still in the hands of the corporation (your home state), and if you have not paid for it with silver or gold dollars you really have not bought it and it is definitely not "yours". The "certificate of title" is just that: it certifies that there is a title, but you are not the holder of that title are you ? In fact you have never ever seen that title...
Nevertheless the holder of the "certificate of title" is acting as an agent (for the state - for the holder of the title) and is able to execute a transfer of (real) ownership if you are using real money ..

Remember this:

with a "tender" (that is your FRN) you discharge debt
with a "payment" (silver or gold dollar) you execute debt

when you discharge something (a debt or a man) : it/he will leave the room
when you execute a debt or a man: that is the end of it/him

with a "tender" you will never be able to execute ..

Originally Posted by sixthbeast

I bought a used truck today.

I don't plan on registering it, but I never got a bill of sale.

Do I need to have proof that the truck belongs to me? Isn't the burden of proof on them if I get pulled over?

Also, if they arrest me, and steal my truck, how can I get my truck out if I don't have a bill of sale.

I do have a certificate of title and crap, but really that stuff belongs to the state.

[Raptor13x]

So why dont we all just make an agreement with a friend, and sell our car in gold or silver to them, then buy it back in gold or silver with another good bill of sale? Then we have a legit bill of sale in our possession we can use as we see fit.

As far as I know you need three things to establish absolute ownership:
1) Ability to own property (I.E. not a US citizen)
2) Purchased property with lawful money (gold or silver)
3) Nobody has a higher claim to the property (you can run an ad in the newspaper for a week demanding anyone with a higher claim to the property contact you within that week or forever hold their peace, and have the newspaper send you an affidavit that nobody responded and there are therefore no higher claims)

Yes I think that approach might work as long as you wait 30 days or more between the sale and the buy back. However to be absolute safe you would have to purchase a new (as in new to you) car .

Originally Posted by Raptor13x

So why dont we all just make an agreement with a friend, and sell our car in gold or silver to them, then buy it back in gold or silver with another good bill of sale? Then we have a legit bill of sale in our possession we can use as we see fit.

As far as I know you need three things to establish absolute ownership:
1) Ability to own property (I.E. not a US citizen)
2) Purchased property with lawful money (gold or silver)
3) Nobody has a higher claim to the property (you can run an ad in the newspaper for a week demanding anyone with a higher claim to the property contact you within that week or forever hold their peace, and have the newspaper send you an affidavit that nobody responded and there are therefore no higher claims)

I know this is an older thread, but does anyone know the aforementioned section of the constitution that states the government shall not take private property for public use?, or where, how I could look up these types of things to use to show local government they're too big for their britches?

[squirrel]

Lavender. check your private messege.

If I get a car, say an older one, do I rent a wheelbarrow and load it up with silver? Or are there legit silver certificates, or gold, etc, that I can use to purchase the car. On the bill of sale, purchased with silver in the form of_____? Also does anyone know how old a car has to be to be considered a "junk"? and how does one get that on paper?

[mystic one]

Do registered cars require a licensced operator would be my next question?

Im assuming your premise must be strong, because you wouldnt say, officer im not in "commerce today" and fail to show him a dl/. cuzz he will rebut with this is a registered car and requires a licenced driver (the registration causes the "adhesion" for an operator now. So by registrating your car you just set up further adhesions. So its best to just privatise to begin with, so you dont have to worry about it getting towed?? choosing your battles wisely?

[idknow]

Originally Posted by mystic one

Do registered cars require a licensced operator would be my next question?

Im assuming your premise must be strong, because you wouldnt say, officer im not in "commerce today" and fail to show him a dl/. cuzz he will rebut with this is a registered car and requires a licenced driver (the registration causes the "adhesion" for an operator now. So by registrating your car you just set up further adhesions. So its best to just privatise to begin with, so you dont have to worry about it getting towed?? choosing your battles wisely?

Guys, you're not looking at the problem correctly;

It's not that you want to tell the state you dont want to register,

The issue is that you want to remove the private property from the realm of commerce

So, you tell the state the VIN and that you have removed it from commerce to be your private property.

Do not pay taxes on it;
do not register it;
do not get tags;
do not get insurance; (co-operative ins. isnt a bad idea)
do not get it inspected.

All of these acts are required by the state on THEIR property.

When You remove the property from their realm of commerce into your realm, their law becomes a nullity to you.

cancel your dl;
properly identify your private property as "NOT FOR HIRE - PRIVATE PROPERTY - NO TRESPASSING"

Kitchie, can you add anything to this?

[scottinalaska]

Hmmm, let's see:

NOTICE OF PRIVATIZATION OF PROPERTY
Dear Alaska DMV,
I am no longer in commerce or using the below identified motor vehicle in commerce. Please remove the VIN from your State database as it is now a private car used only for private affairs. If you have need of anything further than this affidavit from me, I will be happy to provide that at your request.
It has been a pleasure doing business with the State of Alaska these past 5 years, but all good things must come to an end. Thank you for acknowleding the privatization of my 1985 Toyota Pickup VIN 1234X567C89YK.
If this notice has reached you and it should be directed to another person, please forward it on appropriately. I will pay any further postage that might be required to address this notice.

Sincerely yours,
Scottinalaska, all rights reserved.

In the absence of a response, this notarized letter will serve as notice that indeed my truck is now a private car not for hire or under State jurisdiction.

HOW'S THAT?

[mystic one]

ok, that was a very concise and coherent explanation.
However, Until i have everything "cancelled" and completely privatized, in the meantime, it is "registered" and the property of the state. Ok, all that makes since to me.. IN the meantime, If i am pulled over, can i still "refuse to contract" despite my current registration.. Can you still win and say, not in commerce, i refuse to provide you a dl officer, heres an id... Or will they tow it because of the plate/registration.. What statues state that a registered car requires "a operaters licensce".. I hope this further clarified my question.