Expired tags ticket

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

We got a little off course here but it's coming back in line- to the subject of jurisdiction, which directly relates to expired tags or any charge you like.

BTW- interesting comment about the wherabouts of Peter.

OK- the jury just decides the facts. And one of the basic facts in question is the standing of a PLAINTIFF to sue. Jurors already think that way, to some extent, when there is a lack of support or hostility to the prosecution- as in , "why should I give them anything?" Happens sometimes.

Anyway that leaves the Judge, who is duty-bound in theory to dismiss such parts of an indictment that lack testimonial support, under oath. This is in the preliminary stages, before trial. Since NO ONE EVER testifies as to the "peace and dignity" of the state, although that element of the indictment was signed sealed and verified, every case should be dismissed period?

What happens in reality of course is that even everyday sort of allegations pass through the 'watchful eye' of the court, are assumed to exist, etc. In one large American city I personally saw a situation where a defendant was

sentenced to charges on a different matter that was never brought and doesn't exist in law anyway

charged on allegations that were never made, not even in writing

and accused of mostly rhetorical generalizations, without making any actionable claims. A lot of 'almosts', and 'well, it could have been', and 'maybe cause'.

here is the court website

http://www.theguyfromboston.com/

This is what happens as America draws further and further away from it's Judeo Christian underpinnings. we now live in an entirely imaginary world based on the tribal customs of heathens.

(as seen on TV, Visa MasterCharge COD's accepted- most courthouses and police stations have cash machines these days)

I think it was G B Shaw who said "only a primitive savage thinks the customs of his tribe are laws of nature" (my paraphrase).

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by trav12433

Hmmmm so Peter doing something or other while Jesus was something or other...

Relates to expired tags how? I am sorry but I am at a total loss as to how you two (David and Rotwieler) are in anyway helping the actual intended topic of this thread.

Is either of you two actually suggesting that Paul or Jesus can be used in any remedy? Or is this you two talking about your own thing in a thread about expired tags?

I have been trying to relate the two and have missed it.

Thank you Traveler;


You are telling me that Father Giles of Ham is Rottweiler? It that true Father?

A brief look at Bbreitsma shows somebody who got interested enough to read and register for a few posts in February and then remembered Suijuris.net when he got angry about expired tags. My initial advice was, if you look closely, pay it off and move on with his life. Or if he is really serious about fighting and teaching The System a lesson, do it right. - Attack an Achilles' Heel of the jury process in America; where there is an illusion of separation of church and state at the same breath as a unity under Noachide Law.

Bbreitsma may or may not be back.

Father Giles of Ham (Rottweiler?) says:

Sounds possible. I can believe it. This sacrifice substituted the resultant defunctive temple sacrifice...

So Father Giles of Ham is disqualified from any jury because he believes contrary to the faith of the court. However that needs to be pointed out on the record. And the attorney in the black robe might think for a moment about church last Sunday... "Well, I am in control and we cannot disqualify jurors for believing in the Resurrection, especially since I believe it too."

But getting it on the Record prepares the battlefield for an attack in the appeals court. Where things like I quoted proving that American courts are not in fact Christian, they are Babylonian Jewish in origin. The images I added to a post above are from the Babylonian Talmud and they elucidate the character and nature of the cause against Bbreitsma, in fact everybody.

Since I know this I simply abate any nuisance before it gets to trial or even arraignment. So I do not get the pleasure to try it out and watch how it flies. But Bbreitsma came here looking for suggestions and I think it would be interesting and even productive to watch things.

Originally Posted by Trav12433

You need to ignore people that will talk of nothing on your object.

Your confusion about how these things tie together is disingenuous. You are simply defending blind faith in Jesus Christ as if he were God. Maybe so. I have a different interpretation of the Bible.

It is just that being dishonest in any foundation is like building a house on sand instead of bedrock. As I see it, you are simply trying to make it look like I am leading the thread far afield.

Rottweiler disguising himself as Father Giles of Ham is the same kind of deception. Until he confirms or denies that I am not prepared to believe it because the writing styles are distinct. This kind of subterfuge in conversation, while often productive, really goes to show why people who accept the supernatural, the Resurrection cannot possibly be courts of competent jurisdiction. - Not even enough to serve on juries, or even know their own names for that matter.

UGA Lawdog was ranting about overturning convictions in an attempt to ridicule this kind of jurisprudence. But that is only to make me appear irrational about it. What I was saying is get that kind of an objection on the record and watch what happens. However, I think that Bbreitsma has forgotten about Suijuris.com and may not be coming back to even read what he started.

The interest level may easily be gauged by the Views ticker - both here and on Quatloos alike.

BTW- interesting comment about the wherabouts of Peter.

Mainly the objective is to point out the subjectivity of Bible interpretation. And therefore show the usefulness of undermining the belief sets of a majority of any jury - even the court itself misdirected into thinking it is a Christian court when it is in fact administration of the Seven Noachide Laws.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

I seem to be under attack a bit here for some reason...

My online name is FARMER Giles of Ham; maybe "Father Giles" is a funny- Like "Father Fitz Patrick". Alright, ha ha.

FARMER GILES OF HAM is a character from a relatively obscure Tolkien story, of the same name. It is among his best work and conveys his sensibility very well.

I, for my part, am a grain of sand. I deny being Rottweiler. I started posting I think in May of this year before which I never heard of suijuris.net

I miss the contradiction between the 7 Noachide Laws and Christianity- to my mind the two are mutually supportive, or inclusive. How about an entirely NATURAL Resurrection? Scientific, valid, logical, etc. We know so little, there remains much to be understood.

Who am I to judge anyone, on a jury or otherwise. Actually I reject and disavow all that from the get-go. My main goal is how to overcome the adversary by collateral attack - which is why standing (what an appropriate word) is so important.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by farmer_giles_of_ham

I seem to be under attack a bit here for some reason...

My online name is FARMER Giles of Ham; maybe "Father Giles" is a funny- Like "Father Fitz Patrick". Alright, ha ha.

FARMER GILES OF HAM is a character from a relatively obscure Tolkien story, of the same name. It is among his best work and conveys his sensibility very well.

I, for my part, am a grain of sand. I deny being Rottweiler. I started posting I think in May of this year before which I never heard of suijuris.net

I miss the contradiction between the 7 Noachide Laws and Christianity- to my mind the two are mutually supportive, or inclusive. How about an entirely NATURAL Resurrection? Scientific, valid, logical, etc. We know so little, there remains much to be understood.

Who am I to judge anyone, on a jury or otherwise. Actually I reject and disavow all that from the get-go. My main goal is how to overcome the adversary by collateral attack - which is why standing (what an appropriate word) is so important.

I apologize. That attack was from Trav12433 calling you Rottwieler.

Relates to expired tags how? I am sorry but I am at a total loss as to how you two (David and Rotwieler) are in anyway helping the actual intended topic of this thread.

Father/Farmer - pleeeeaaase forgive me!

I am a Tolkein fan and thanks for reminding me.

I miss the contradiction between the 7 Noachide Laws and Christianity- to my mind the two are mutually supportive, or inclusive.

Agreed. However most Christians just fuzz over Acts 15:20 without realizing that Paul was teaching the Seven Noachide Laws to the pagans of Asia Minor. The Noachide Laws were introduced to me from charismatic Christians as a fulfillment of the End Days - decapitation etc. without any notion that it is natural law expressed in natural religion.

How about an entirely NATURAL Resurrection? Scientific, valid, logical, etc. We know so little, there remains much to be understood.

There are two strong theories:

1) Survival from Robert Graves - The Nazarene Gospel Restored. Robert survived a chest would and his hand was cut. The doctor at the MASH tent saw the would was not bleeding and sent him to lie among the cadavers for another 36 hours. Then somebody realized he was alive and he fully recovered. Ergo he is biased to that particular scenario with Jesus.

2) Joseph of Arimethea was Jesus' rich uncle, a silver miner. He may have paid for a mock Crucifixion to save the new King of Israel. This is Michael Baigent and coauthors - Holy Blood, Holy Grail. It depends heavily on "at a distance" references. - That the Roman guards would not allow anyone very close to inspect the severity of the crucifixion.

The main thrust of my mentioning Noachide Law was really that Congress has confirmed its adoption in the US and the Sanhedrin knows it.



Regards,

David Merrill.


The other interplay going on here is echoing between here and Quatloos. I love the Internet!

http://quatloos.com/qforum/viewtopic...0db7880401bfe9

[rottweiler]

Originally Posted by trav12433

My bad... I meant father giles of ham / not the doggie

I like rottweilers better than most people because they obey and protect their master out of love and can't be forced to do anything. You could literally beat them to death and they will **** and piss themselves but they will not obey force.

How can we know Jesus rose from the dead?
Why is it important if Jesus rose from the dead or not?

(1 Cor 15:14 NIV) And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.

So you see if Jesus did not rise from the dead and is now alive we are all lost and Christianity is worthless. Jesus being alive now is central to what every Christian believes.

What proof do we have that Jesus really did rise from the dead?
First proof is a band of wimps; the disciples. When Jesus was taken prisoner to be crucified they all ran away: (Mat 26:56b NIV) Then all the disciples deserted him and fled. (Mark 14:50 NIV) Then everyone deserted him and fled. Everyone was scared and ran away.

After all of this Jesus was crucified on the cross and buried in a grave. On the third day He appeared to several people first then to the eleven remaining disciples. They did not believe He was alive at first: (Luke 24:36-43 NIV) While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have." When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, "Do you have anything here to eat?" They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate it in their presence. Why did Jesus ask for food and eat in front of them? Because a ghost does not eat, they cannot eat because they are spirits. This was His way of proving that He really did come back to life.

But how do we know that this really happened?
Well we go to documented history of the early Christians. Remember these guys all ran when Jesus was arrested, but after seeing Him alive again and knowing without a doubt that He was dead just three days before they got lots of courage. Here is a list of some people who believed and what happened to them:

Stephen was stoned.

James was beheaded.

Philip crucified.

Matthew slain with a sword.

James the brother of Jesus, had his brains dashed out with a fuller's club.

Matthias stoned and then beheaded.

Andrew crucified.

Mark was dragged to pieces by the people of Alexandria.

Peter crucified upside down.

Paul beheaded with a sword.

Jude crucified.

Bartholomew beaten then crucified.

Thomas killed with a spear.

Luke hanged.

Simon crucified.

John was cast into a cauldron of boiling oil, but lived and was exiled and died on the island of Patmos.

Nero was the Roman ruler during this period and he hated the Christians. He had some sewed up in skins of wild beasts, and then attacked by dogs until they died; and others dressed in shirts made stiff with wax, fixed to posts, and set on fire in his gardens, in order to illuminate them.

All these people were killed for one reason, because they said they were Christians, or in other words that they believed that Jesus rose from the dead. If they had denounced that belief, just said they no longer believed they would not have been killed.

Many people try to claim that Jesus was not a real person, or that He did not come back to life, but they can't explain why a bunch of scared wimps all of a sudden decided He was worth dying for. Ask yourself are you willing to die for a lie instead of just telling the truth? There must have been something to what they believed for so many of them to be willing to die for it.

http://www.behindthebadge.net/apolog...discuss20.html

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

Right On, Rottweiler!

To trav12433: Lighten up, bro. Threads go where they go. At least we are communicating.

If you want to see a bunch of harpies pecking at each other go check out Quatloos. They have this little amen corner of self-congratulation going on over there. Like 8 or 10 posters are concerned with just one, fellow poster David Merrill, and particularly an entire thread there is devoted to this thread here on this site. Where would they be without suijuris.net?

That's funny- virtual vicarity.

[tuckerl]

How will the scoffers and skeptics explain it when the feet of Jesus touch down on the Mount of Olives in the near future? (KJV Zechariah 14: 4, Matthew 24:30, Acts 1:11)

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by tuckerl

How will the scoffers and skeptics explain it when the feet of Jesus touch down on the Mount of Olives in the near future? (KJV Zechariah 14: 4, Matthew 24:30, Acts 1:11)

The Bible is filled with symbolism. I will explain it though the unfilled Worthless Shepherd Prophecy of Zechariah. That is the one that no pastors will touch in their sermons.

[tuckerl]

(KJV)Luke 8:10 Jesus says to his disciples “Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand”.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by tuckerl

(KJV)Luke 8:10 Jesus says to his disciples “Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand”.

Subjective to interpretation. Since Jesus was speaking privately to his inner apocalyptic mystery cult - I say he was speaking more that the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven are that there is nothing supernatural about his surviving the Cross.

Regards,

David Merrill.