Mel Stamper Abatement

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

I've given up efforts to discourage this sort of silliness on this forum...

OH YES! HALLELUJAH!!!

Thank You Very Much Shoonra!

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Shoonra
I've given up efforts to discourage this sort of silliness on this forum...

Originally Posted by ezrhythm

OH YES! HALLELUJAH!!!

Thank You Very Much Shoonra!

Shoonra is lying.

Shoonra is an attorney.

That is what they are trained to do.

[Akira-]

Weis,

Thanks for the repost of the above link (I missed it the first time)

Originally Posted by Shoonra

The defendant should have something more than just the two words, "special appearance", to challenge jurisdiction,

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Shoonra

and if he is defeated on that point then the case immediately progresses to the merits.

Nice try..

Lawyers cant do PJ challenges... can they? oh "curer of defects" lol

If the judge steamrolls PJ, he will then attempt to use presumption to skip over SMJ and move to the merits...

Presumptions: "A Presumption is but a rule of procedure used to supply wants of facts and its only effect is to cast burden on opposite party of going forward with proof." Cichecki v. City of Hamtrunk, Mich. 170 NW 2nd 58.

"Presumption is but a rule of procedure" ?

These seven words alone should make any God fearing man, run like hell in the opposite direction !

Presumption is (nothing?) but..... ???

Defining deviancy down? (thanks Rush !)


Presumption is FRAUD !

"But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people." - Numbers 15:30

"And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously." - Deuteronomy 17:13

"Keep back thy (public) servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression." - Psalms 19:13

We should indeed obey that government instituted by the Spirit of God in Christ Jesus; but not a usurper or pretender to His Throne - Hosea 8:4

"We ought to obey God rather than men." - Acts 5:29

"Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man." - Jeremiah 17:5

"Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." - Ecclesiastes 12:13

Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson

Don't allow the judge to use presumption to skip over your opportunity to challenge SMJ, while the burden still remains on him !! (if the presumption of SMJ is allowed, the burden of proof (?) shifts to you, for the remainder of the trial)

Are you rushing me to judgement?

Who the heck are you?

Have you taken an oath... ect.

Drill them on SMJ... and rip the essential elements apart.

Ei incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat; cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probatio nulla sit. - "The proof lies upon him who affirms, not upon him who denies; since, by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof."

The law compells no man to impossible things. The argument ab impossibili is forcible in law. Section 92a.

Institutes of the Laws of England by Sir Edward Coke 1823

For HIS Glory,
Akira

[Friendsplacect]

Thank You for that link. I discovered that info later after my experience there.
San Jose and the surrounding county tends to breed, attract and train up sticklers and customer non-service attitudes. If I went in to the PO and showed them that rule, they would argue that my paper doesn't qualify as, 'Plain Cards, Slips of Paper, and Blank Envelopes".

Automatic Postal Machines print the Date right on the postage, would this serve as an alternate way instead of the round date?

[Shoonra]

Traffic courts should have no problem with jurisdiction, whether in personam or subject matter. The prosecutor merely has to point to the law creating the traffic court and to the address of the alleged traffic offense. That would be sufficient - unless the defendant has something solid with which to challenge jurisdiction.

As for Mel Stamper: If anyone has any information that he is entitled to hold himself out as a lawyer and professor of law, please provide the details.

[Livefire]

Remember when a formal hearing is requested that it usually is considered a criminal proceeding ( know that from my MI experiences! ) One can disqualify the court from hearing the matter if you enter proof that the judge AND the crooked legislators receive inurement from traffic fines thru their retirement funds. (proved that one in MI and they find an excuse to get me outta their court rooms! :-) ) Remember Tumey v Ohio....you have a right to an unbiased judge without a pecuniary interest in the case.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by Friendsplacect

Automatic Postal Machines print the Date right on the postage, would this serve as an alternate way instead of the round date?

Ahhhhhhhhhhh . . .

I love ya, man!

[KarenM]

Originally Posted by Friendsplacect

Automatic Postal Machines print the Date right on the postage, would this serve as an alternate way instead of the round date?

No, it's no good.

Since the person who owns the machine can easily reset the date to whatever he wants, they aren't allowed as proof of date.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by KarenM

No, it's no good.

Since the person who owns the machine can easily reset the date to whatever he wants, they aren't allowed as proof of date.

Yes, I do think that is correct.

I have also wondered why I have NEVER seen one of these machine generated red "stamps," or black boxed "postage paid" notices CANCELLED as are actual postage stamps affixed to mail.

A proper cancellation on a postage stamp provides quite a bit of information.

[Friendsplacect]

No, it's no good.

Since the person who owns the machine can easily reset the date to whatever he wants, they aren't allowed as proof of date.

If if one doesnt want to to deal a postal clerk you can use the Automatic Machines that they have at the postal offices now. The Post Office near me is open 24 hours with the machine.