Mel Stamper Abatement

[weishaupt1776]

I don't necessarily agree with everything on here, but there is some good stuff

(attached in WORD format)

The ticketslayer is still the simplest and the best

I have uploaded the entire Clyde Hyde default course in the member's only section

[ezrhythm]

You uploaded it? Is that the section where the downloading doesn't work?

[Akira-]

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/member...lt-course.html

[ezrhythm]

Oh yeah! duh. Thank You Very Much!

[David Merrill]

I just used the search function to find the abatement:

I have received but have not accepted the Uniform Traffic Citation and Complaint and am hereby rejecting said document for cause without dishonor. I am returning said document marked "Without Prejudice" thereby retaining all of my Rights in Law and Equity as I challenge the subject matter and in personam jurisdiction of the court for the following causes:

That is called Refusal for Cause. And it is why I teach new suitors they cannot accept and refuse any presentment at the same time.

I marked in red the fatal mistake. And the first paragraph of the treatise explains why. I do not know how this could happen - I suppose the author of the treatise is not the author of the abatement. Any successful abatement will have a refusal for cause but one cannot challenge the jurisdiction of emergency doctrine without appearing.

There are many who believe that special appearances (by paper work, motions, etc.) nullify a court’s jurisdiction. Under emergency powers this is false doctrine. There is no remedy in challenging a courts jurisdiction, except by abating its process, first.

I suppose the other way to make my point is to ask, Why challenge jurisdiction if you have abated process? Look for yourselves:

http://www.jag.navy.mil/documents/mcm2000.pdf

Page 58:

(b) Requisites of court-martial jurisdiction. A courtmartial always has jurisdiction to determine whether it has jurisdiction. Otherwise for a court-martial to have jurisdiction...

Regards,

David Merrill.

[Friendsplacect]

David, has the Postal Clerk given you or anyone else problems stamping the document?

[ezrhythm]

In San Jose, California the postal clerk and the Post Master at an office refused to round-date stamp my papers. They would only stamp a letter to be mailed or a Certified Mail receipt. They told me that it seemed like I was trying to use there services in place of a notary.
A friend of mine said to use one of their local postal mailing service stores as they were much more friendlier and cooperative.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by ezrhythm

In San Jose, California the postal clerk and the Post Master at an office refused to round-date stamp my papers.

Here, Hold this . . . (((())))
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/89557-post39.html

[ezrhythm]

Thank You for that link. I discovered that info later after my experience there.
San Jose and the surrounding county tends to breed, attract and train up sticklers and customer non-service attitudes. If I went in to the PO and showed them that rule, they would argue that my paper doesn't qualify as, 'Plain Cards, Slips of Paper, and Blank Envelopes".

[Shoonra]

I've given up efforts to discourage this sort of silliness on this forum, but I will call attention to the fact that Mel Stamper calls himself a "JD." (notice how he punctuates that -- not J.D. which would be Juris Doctor), he is not listed anywhere as a lawyer, nor on the faculty of any bona fide law school, nor is there any record of a court allowing him to represent a client.

As for a special appearance, I have enlarged on this elsewhere. The defendant should have something more than just the two words, "special appearance", to challenge jurisdiction, and if he is defeated on that point then the case immediately progresses to the merits.