Quick passport question...documentation - Page 5

David Merrill · #41 10-30-2007, 07:15 AM

From a related thread:

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Originally Posted by Shoonra

I am pretty sure that it's much easier to cancel your voter registration than what you have conjured up. For one thing, I'm sure they don't give a rap what your reasons are; they'll cancel your registration on request without commencing a dialog on your reasons.

Call up your local board of elections and find out what you have to do.

And once you're cancelled, you can stop complaining about the doings of the elected government.

Belay that.

Here's how to do it.

Register to vote (again) but change your status to (check the box) NO for Are You a US citizen?

They will send you a letter back testifying that you are not entitled or eligible to vote, and in doing so acknowledge that you are someone other than a US citizen.

Publish their testimony at the same county clerk and recorder - it is inherently apostilled.

Because of the notary apostille inherent at the clerk and recorder, you might publish an asseveration you are an American national* (aka Coloradoan, Nebraskan etc.) and send those two documents with the fee for a US Passport.

The Passport will function the same at customs but whenever you show it have certified copies of the two documents folded up inside the Passport Wallet. The requirement for getting a US Passport is not being a US citizen - you must be an American national, or US national.

Regards,

David Merrill.

* Of course provide some first hand testimony like a Certificate of Live Birth etc. Do not just give your testimony unless you remember knowing what state you were in that day, and you popped out knowing how to read a calendar.

weishaupt1776 · #42 10-30-2007, 10:18 AM

David, that rocks

Been right under our noses the whole time

Looks like the ICE & Homeland Security now has the database regarding "citizenship" records, too

ezrhythm · #43 10-30-2007, 11:39 PM

There must be an notarized or apostilled statement that can be given for those who do not use/have a; "last name", an address or a postal code in order to fill out a passport application.

David Merrill · #44 10-31-2007, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ezrhythm

There must be an notarized or apostilled statement that can be given for those who do not use/have a; "last name", an address or a postal code in order to fill out a passport application.

I do not think so. You have to be an American or US national to receive the benefit of running to the US embassy wherever. I carry a WSA Passport and for Name put David Merrill. I told them to change the field to Family Name but they would not do that. But if you look at Page 5 for the explanation of each field - you find that is what is supposed to go there - Family Name.

I keep the passport in a United States of America wallet with the Great Seal on its face. I have glued a USA flag to the backside of the Passport. If I get into trouble, it is clear where I was born and which embassy I want for refuge. Conversely, I would never show it to anyone, unless I was already in trouble.

The convention is a lie. My name is David Merrill - not Van Pelt.

Ponder why I felt Shoonra's post was significant enough to use for my Signature. I am not making fun of her other than that her lack of attornment experience may have caused the blurt. You have heard Judge Roy Bean and other Quatlosers here calling me Van Pelt - insisting I am Van Pelt.

The convention is to impose the Biblical precept of nokriy, from nakar. Stranger and Foreigner in Deuteronomy 15:1-3 and 23:20. "Feign self to be another..." The Knights Templar sponsored both the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta and waved only the Magna Charta and its values. Meanwhile the International Bar Association (City of London also keeps the Templars [see streetmap attached]), working in conjunction with The Vatican, Unidroit's UCC and the Dutch East Indies Trading Company METRO, City of XXXXXX municipal code - Manhattan Island/Patroons/UN combinatorial mathematics; while you shiver in a concrete box just off the Booking Area. The sooner you become your family's version of VAN PELT when shouted, the sooner you get to sit and watch TV with the other Noachides.

The lieutenant on duty even says, "It doesn't matter, just so long as he is responding to it."

Regards,

David Merrill.

ezrhythm · #45 10-31-2007, 06:52 AM

How about if your document claims that you are a national and it is witnessed?
An apostille shouldmake it so that one must be a state citizen which would make one a U.S. National.

weishaupt1776 · #46 10-31-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ezrhythm

How about if your document claims that you are a national and it is witnessed?
An apostille shouldmake it so that one must be a state citizen which would make one a U.S. National.

Bro, the LAST THING you want to be is a U.S. National

A U.S. National is a United States Citizen according to various sections of 8 USC

ezrhythm · #47 10-31-2007, 08:44 AM

You're right. I meant just National.

David Merrill · #48 10-31-2007, 09:31 AM

Thanks Weishaupt;

However definitions apply for certain sections of code and I thought I found a glimmer of hope... So see about "Definitions" for the Section somebody brought to this thread before we abandon that.

This fellow speaks of an Exit Assessment following common law expatriation from the District - from the Secretary of State. He has never seen one, so they get a default on the intent to get one and has at least one case in front of the US Supreme Court which has brought back several correction correspondences.

This is hopeful because when the SC runs out of corrections to demand, the process will be perfected.

I disagree with his models for nearly identical ones that the US district courts are running expeditiously through that mailbox out front. So my model eliminates a rather fraudulent presumption you are presumed to be domiciled in the District of Columbia. Important as that distinction is, our models function identically.

http://tinyurl.com/2gdcjb

Regards,

David Merrill.

Extramural · #49 10-31-2007, 12:33 PM

I have still seen no evidence that a passport can be issued for an "American National."

From Crosstalk on another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Merrill

The requirement for getting a US Passport is not being a US citizen - you must be an American national, or US national.

If you would be so kind as to point to the proof of the allowance of an American National getting a US passport, it would be appreciated.

Just want to know if anyone has any evidence that a passport can be issued for an "American National."

ezrhythm · #50 10-31-2007, 04:56 PM

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1101

§ 1101. Definitions

(3) The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.

(21) The term “national” means a person owing permanent allegiance to a state.

(22) The term “national of the United States” means (A) a citizen of the United States, or
(B) a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States.

(30) The term “passport” means any travel document issued by competent authority showing the bearer’s origin, identity, and nationality if any, which is valid for the admission of the bearer into a foreign country.

(38) The term “United States”, except as otherwise specifically herein provided, when used in a geographical sense, means the continental United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands of the United States.
[Hmmm, here it doesn't refer to the U.S. as D.C. and it's territiories.]

In USC title 18, there is no reference to "American" as pertaining to this subject.

So then one would say they are a, for example, a California National.