How to use your state's APA

Good Day to All,

Ralph Winterrowd has pretty much come to the end of the tunnel in regards to the deception that has been bestowed upon us. And the solution all gets back to what you are talking about on this thread. For some time now, Ralph has been sending his discoveries via e-mail to his newsgroup members, of which I am one. I've compiled quite a mass of files and it's very complex. However, Ralph has just revised his website to include this latest information on the site. Go to jusbelli.com and click on the red pill. Then click on the newly added "Emails of Ralph w/attachments". Within that page you will see an explanation of what's going on and as you scroll down, you will see "substantive regs, IRS and agencies". That page contains the cfrs and other evidence.

Now, for a good audio explanation to help utilize the paperwork, you can listen to his most recent radio programs (April 05) at http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt05.html. Scroll down to April 7th, 2005 with Dessie Andrews and Bill Veith. I downloaded the MP3 individuals, as it's in two parts, but you may have other options.

Sincerely,
truth

[weishaupt1776]

The Administrative Procedures Act (APA)*is an illusion of due process but in reality far from it.* States have joined the deception in much the same way, such that the deception is foolproof.
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By using the APA, the government can set up a semi-judicial tribunal who is extremely*limited and who's discretion is narrowly defined.* By limited the discretion by code, success is assured.* For instance, all APA bodies have no discretion to hear Natural law,*Constitutional or common law complaints.* Thus if you protest your property taxes, the Board of Equalization only has discretion to adjust the amount of the assessment, not to rule on any direct attack on the assessment itself.* The IRS as well, only has discretion to adjust the amounts depending on evidence presented to them.* In this manner, no direct challenge can ever be sustained against the assessments.
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Since, no direct attack is authorized by the code, nor are they duties defined by code to do anymore than act on the assessment amounts, all challenges are frivolous, no matter what the merits are.* Thus the courts as well are locked into trial de novo hearing of they*administrative hearing by code and the tyranny is complete with no remedy available.
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If the American sheeple understood the process, there would not be a Congressman alive to perpetuate the tyranny, however they have lost any ounce of reality and recognition of who they really are in relation to that artificial entity we call government.
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The only remedy*lies in the common law default and its enforcement, which should be as effective as the common law traffic defaults.* The only obstacle to the process is the corruption of those who have power to*make judgments in the well oiled and designed support of the three branches to impose tyranny and open aggression on the People.*

[weishaupt1776]

Whoops!!!11111111111

[Leiahi]

It's the fourth arm of Law.

The Blue Law.

If you can get this process, you can get what you really want. All the Freedom we're fighting for.

[cowboy]

Blue law ?

Leiahi you said,
"If you can get this process..."

What are you refering to.

[Leiahi]

I am following up, y'all...thanks for your patience....family and all, I've been busy.

Cowboy, it's difficult at best with only the nutshell. I have been not only gathering the information and the process, but I am about to acheive my own personal freedom using the APA and the "Blue Law". This may be useful to some, perhaps not all of SJ. If it can be applied to your situations it will be insightful.

I see that some have different veiws on what the APA is. What we have done, is working, so I have not, what some of you see this as.

The APA is the Blue Law. It's the Administrative Law, the Fourth Arm of Law, The Fourth arm of Government. I believe we 'should' call it the First, specifically because it's how all other laws are governed (their laws don't work if they don't write it first). From my, and my friends, own experiences, we found one way, how to get "our" so called peice of the pie. I stress that because all our peices are custom to our being/life. At the moment, and inclusive to this subject, I am working on my Home Port Doctrine, under the Laws of Zoning, estabilishing the "Port" itself. This is done through the Postal "Registered Office" (this means our MCO=Manuf. Cert. of Origin). The USPS is that office. 3 types of ports: air, water, and postal/mail, and the postal one is located in our geographical designation. Likewise, we don't live at the airport or the harbors. Make sense? Our birth certificates also established our port of entry. Any one crossing a border gets an "entry" for mere use. In establishing our own port, we don't merely use, we become the bare lisencee. This one is slightly more difficult to explain, but I will expound in the near future. Try this one people: Command Ex-Warrant (another doc in the mix)

Through the Administrative Procedures Act, I/We have found a pathway. Suffice it to say, the Sec. of State has given the golden seal to 4 guys I know. I helped them with their docs. Whence your platform (BC, SS, UCC, Copyrights, etc) is set up, you write your peace treaty to the world, establish your home port, put your corp/trust in place,W-8, and dont forget your constitution/BOR for your "individual state/country/soveriegn nation", then you get it stamped with the local county recorder and forward it onto the Sec. of State. He'll give you the golden seal. Where we are (Hawaii), our friendly Court house is the "recorder". It's much like rungs on ladder. Unfortunately, many of us might miss a rung or two, that ultimately defeats the purpose. I myself have personally had to back up and fix or build it into my plans and the "procedure". This is really important. Try not to miss any steps is you plan to go all the way.

At any rate, when you have that seal on all your papers, it validates and verifies your "being" and all those docs that are now 'golden' - is purposely for use in your own "sovereign" country. You are the sovereign country, and with that you can now truly operate as such, as you are a foreign national in the US, with diplomatic power over your nation (yourself).

I may have missed a few points here, small ones. I am preparing my own docs this week. When they are complete I will post an itinerary. Also, a sidebar to the effects of having those seals: the courts have no clue what to do with the guys coming into court....they don't know how to counter an "Apostille". It's quite exhilarating observation in the courtroom, I do say@! What has occured two times, now, 1, postpone, 2, postpone....they gotta figure it out. And they can't. One speculation that I will make here, is in separating the "capacity", what, 4 or 5 times deep, they themselves are confused and they don't know how to set apart the strawman from the diplomat. Or it's procedures. It's all about "Procedure" and seemingly obvious, when our procedures rule theirs, they can't move the court, they'd be operating under the wrong capacity! A no-no in commerce or law.

My absence from the board won't be long, maybe a week. Please try not to bombard me with too many questions just yet. It's a work in progress. If You do, please make them very pointedly. I promise to deliver, and apologize in advance if I've compounded your confusion....
Aloha

[idknow]

Originally Posted by TheBlackTruth

<font color=darkblue face=verdana>For the last few weeks, I've been researching and discussing the ramifications of the Administrative Procedures Act as codified by our states' legislatures. From that research and those discussions, i've come up with the following 'flow' for an argument to dismiss a traffic case using California's Administrative Procedures Act as the foundation. You'll see it below. One thing that is good about this, is that, in theory, with some modifcation, this should be effective in any state-agency-regulated case.

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   <li >The accused is a Citizen of California endowed with certain unalienable rights protected by the state constitution and the federal constitution, including, but not limited to the right to travel freely and to not be deprived of liberty or property without due process of law. See California Constitution Art. 1, Sec. 7.
   
   <li >The accused is being charged with allegedly violating the following California Vehicle Code(s) (CVC):
   
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      <li >CVCXXXX, commonly known as driving while ethnic.
      
      <li >CVCXXXX, commonly known as driving while poorly dressed.
      
   
   <li >The Vehicle Code is to be enforced by The California Highway Patrol. SeeCVC §2400.
   
   <li >The "commissioner" is the Commissioner of the California Highway Patrol. See CVC §265.
   
   
   
   <li >The California Highway Patrol, through the commissioner, is required to act in accordance to the Administrative Procedures Act, commencing with Section 11370 of the California Government Code (CGC). See CVC §2402.
   
   <li >The California Highway Patrol is an *Agency* within the meaning of CGC §11405.30.
   
   <li >Every contested case is required to be heard in an administrative proceeding. See
   
   CGC §11512.
   
   <li >An agency evidentiary hearing for determination of facts is required for formulation and issuance of the decision in a contested case. See
   
   CGC §§11410.10, 11410.60(b)(2), 11512.
   
   
   
   <li >The accused protected right to due process of law through an agency determination of rights, duties and privileges is being denied by the failure of the State to comply with the mandate of CGC §11410.10.
   
   <li >The only provision for judicial review is conditioned upon a decision or determination pursuant to an agency adjudicative proceeding. See CGC §11425.50(b).
   
   <li >The State has not exhausted its administrative remedy because there has been no agency hearing or determination pursuant to the Administrative Procedures Act, commencing with Section 11370 of the California Government Code.
   
   <li >There is no final agency determination.
   
   <li >Where there is no agency determination, the Court has no subject-matter jurisdiction.
2. Without subject matter jurisdiction, this court has no choice but to dismiss.
   

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Excellent threading there, very cool.

[Leiahi]

Hello all,

A week ago, I replied here with an in depth explanation of the issues I've been working on and applying. It was a good page long, plus!
Thanks to the powers that be, maybe the message was not appropriate, the site server failed as I tried to post my reply...!?#!
confirmed by SJ 9/21/05 5:27am HST

It's much too detailed right at the moment to go into, however, I would like to say this: For as much as you're all studying the APA and it's ramifications to statutes and codes, remember that it was also established for the reasons of its title. Simply put, use it for "admistrative" purposes. HOw do you think bills are written into law!? And, law cannot operate without Administration! I may be seeing this differently that what is in this thread, because I "see" it and learned it as a "tool", to administrate business. Just so you know...

I will follow up with full details, as obviously, it is not complete yet. It's gotten slightly complicated because I do not want to be a "diplomat" --I want to be who I am. This little glitch is now holding me off, in need of determining the actual capacity (in procedural application) that I AM, and to apply it as such. If you may recall, the "seals" in this particular instance, were used initially for crimanal sanction. That's not my purpose, thus the change in my intention and particular use of the APA. I do NOT and will NOT regcognize anything the US INC has set forth in their determination of my capacity. I am using the APA to write my law "out" of their venue and jurisdiction.

So, just a little clarifcation on the "use" of the APA (ours anyway). It's not just one sided! It was set up for reasons, which we can use and "apply" (in administrative procedure) to get out from "under" and operate in a "national" mode.

(If I'm a national, from what nation? My own soveran nation, operating as one/me/mine)

Step outside their box, if you will, there's a whole other world out here! lol

And, just a little note about the other things the APA will help me to establish:
A Home Port/Port of Entry
My (Own) Constitution/Bill of Rights
My Nation Treaties with the World
The Laws of my Nation
My International Commercial Capacity
My Place "offshore"
a Liason Office with their "foreign" government
and an access to my exemption! EFT

The Administrative Procedures Act, it's a wonder in disguise, but possibly, puts me in harm's way...dilemma, dilemma.....this is where I'm at.

[Livefire]

Leiahi,

In your situation, would that be the true Kingdom of Hawai'i ?? If so then you establish yourself under the jurisdiction its would be king. I wish you all success in your pursuit.

[weishaupt1776]

Here's an incomplete study(another unfinished project) of Florida's APA in light of BT's petition

http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread...ht=statu tory