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Old 12-24-2007, 04:07 AM
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Can Anyone Verify These Cites?

Nothing showed up on google for me.

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http://www.freedom-school.com/who-needs-a-drivers.pdf

From: "We The People for Independent Texas" wtpfit@gmail.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006
Subject: Who needs a drivers license?
* Reference material - For Information Only! *

Answer no one since the court already decided this issue in the following cases:

Here is how the Appellate Criminal Courts of Texas have answered this request:

"The court has held that there is no such license known to Texas Law as a "driver's license." Frank John Callas v. State, 167 Tex. Crim. 375; 320 S.W. 2d 360

And…

“We have held that there is no such license as a driver's license known to our law." Claude D. Campbell v. State, 160 Tex. Crim. 627; 274 S.W. 2d 401

And…

"An information charging the driving of a motor vehicle upon a public highway without a driver's license charges no offense, as there is no such license as a driver's license known to the law." Keith Brooks v. State, 158 Tex. Crim. 546; 258 S.W. 2d 317

And…

"There being no such license as a "driver's" license known to the law, it follows that the information, in charging the driving of a motor vehicle upon a highway without such a license, charges no offense." W. Lee Hassell v. The State, 149 Tex. Crim. 333; 194 S.W. 2d 400
…there is a saying, “If an honest man who is misinformed is informed of the truth, he either ceases to be misinformed or ceases to be honest.”

The reader is well advised to verify information before use
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Old 12-24-2007, 06:33 AM
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request for verification

send me your email addy and I will forward to you tons of information relative to Texas and the right to travel.

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Old 12-24-2007, 06:49 AM
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The Texas courts are sort of anal about the usage of Texas legal terminology on this point. The Texas DL is consistently called, in the Texas statutes and code, a Motor Vehicle Operator's Permit. If the accusation in these cases had used the proper nomenclature, instead of saying "Driver's License", you would not have these decisions.


My point being that, yes, Texas does have a DL, just don't call it that.
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Old 12-24-2007, 07:53 AM
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That's why when googling, "Texas Motor Vehicle Operator's Permit" only two hits come up and one of those hits is the Texas DMV
that calls it a Driver's License.

Also then, why would people get charged for such as the cases indicate?
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:00 AM
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IIRC, the court was scolding Texas cops for writing out tickets that mentioned "driver's license" when that is not the term used in Texas law. That was really the only point of the comments quoted. The courts were willing to spin the cops' wheels until they used the right terminology.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:43 PM
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Oh OK, that makes complete sense. HAHAHAHA!!! MORE BS from Bernie!

This Texas "court" calls them a driver's license;
http://www.cityofkeller.com/MC/mcyouvebncharged.htm

Ans so does this one;
http://www.harkerheights.com/courtmsmunicipal.htm
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:17 AM
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Someone starts this thread with quotations that the Texas courts say that Texas does not issued "Drivers Licenses', and someone else finally comes up with some instructions posted by Texas courts for pro-se litigants that refer to Drivers Licenses, and somehow I'm to blame.
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Old 12-25-2007, 12:25 PM
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I'll take the blame for that one.

And unless you show some proof you can take the blame for saying the Texas courts call them, "Texas Motor Vehicle Operator's Permit".
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Old 12-25-2007, 01:19 PM
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Being that you did not desire to give my your email addy and that because it is Christmas, I will go ahead and give you one of them right now. Merry Christmas

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Originally Posted by ezrhythm
Nothing showed up on google for me.

Taken from;
http://www.freedom-school.com/who-needs-a-drivers.pdf

From: "We The People for Independent Texas" wtpfit@gmail.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006
Subject: Who needs a drivers license?
* Reference material - For Information Only! *

Answer no one since the court already decided this issue in the following cases:

Here is how the Appellate Criminal Courts of Texas have answered this request:

"The court has held that there is no such license known to Texas Law as a "driver's license." Frank John Callas v. State, 167 Tex. Crim. 375; 320 S.W. 2d 360

And…

“We have held that there is no such license as a driver's license known to our law." Claude D. Campbell v. State, 160 Tex. Crim. 627; 274 S.W. 2d 401

And…

"An information charging the driving of a motor vehicle upon a public highway without a driver's license charges no offense, as there is no such license as a driver's license known to the law." Keith Brooks v. State, 158 Tex. Crim. 546; 258 S.W. 2d 317

And…

"There being no such license as a "driver's" license known to the law, it follows that the information, in charging the driving of a motor vehicle upon a highway without such a license, charges no offense." W. Lee Hassell v. The State, 149 Tex. Crim. 333; 194 S.W. 2d 400
…there is a saying, “If an honest man who is misinformed is informed of the truth, he either ceases to be misinformed or ceases to be honest.”

The reader is well advised to verify information before use
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Old 12-25-2007, 01:27 PM
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The Campbell decision, attached to Ezrhythm's message, supports my explanation.
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