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Old 05-16-2008, 08:19 AM
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* United States Code
o TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
+ PART I - CRIMES
# CHAPTER 2 - AIRCRAFT AND MOTOR VEHICLES

Section 31. Definitions

(a) Definitions. - In this chapter, the following definitions apply:

(6) Motor vehicle. - The term "motor vehicle" means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the Transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo.

(10) Used for commercial purposes. - The term "used for
commercial purposes" means the carriage of persons or property
for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other consideration, or
directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other
undertaking intended for profit.

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Old 05-16-2008, 08:25 AM
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The problem with that one is that you would have to find another statute which would tie in the fed with the union state

The only one I know of so far is in this research here
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/travel...ts-states.html

it would be great if we could trace those grants and prove that they are using that money for the whole state fro their programs, because then they would have a serious problem saying that they arenot presuming you to be a "for hire common carrier"
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:36 AM
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...BUT THEN they presume anyone who is a resident to be in commerce, hence everyone is presumed to be driving for commercial puposes.

REMEDY - Rebutt the presumption or don't hold evidence of being a resident. Interstate residency applies.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:47 AM
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The problem with that one is that you would have to find another statute which would tie in the fed with the union state

How about this?

North Carolina General Statutes:

§ 20‑3. Organization of Division.

The Commissioner, subject to the approval of the Secretary of the Department of Transportation, shall organize and administer the Division in such manner as he may deem necessary to conduct the work of the Division.

§ 20‑4.01. Definitions.

Unless the context requires otherwise, the following definitions apply throughout this Chapter to the defined words and phrases and their cognates:

(2) Canceled. – As applied to drivers' licenses and permits, a declaration that a license or permit which was issued through error or fraud, or to which G.S. 20‑15(a)(3) applies, is void and terminated.

§ 20‑15. Authority of Division to cancel license or endorsement.
(a) The Division shall have authority to cancel any driver's license upon determining any of the following:
(3) The licensee is no longer authorized under federal law to be legally present in the United States.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:49 AM
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The problem with that one is that you would have to find another statute which would tie in the fed with the union state

The only one I know of so far is in this research here
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/travel...ts-states.html

it would be great if we could trace those grants and prove that they are using that money for the whole state fro their programs, because then they would have a serious problem saying that they arenot presuming you to be a "for hire common carrier"

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Old 05-16-2008, 09:07 AM
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That is not even the applicable Fed definition.

See original post of this thread for a adjoining federal definition.

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Old 05-16-2008, 11:34 AM
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The definition in 18 USC 31 is specific to "this chapter", and is from a law adopted in 1956 explicitly to give the FBI jurisdiction over airplane sabotage (this was the year after Griffin used a suitcase bomb to collect flight insurance on his mother and kill about 60 other people). The definition is specific to vehicles used to get people and their luggage to and around airports.
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:39 PM
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"In this chapter" means that it applies NOWHERE else.

As quoted:
TITLE 1 > CHAPTER 1 > § 4

§ 4. “Vehicle” as including all means of land transportation

The word “vehicle” includes every description of carriage or other artificial contrivance used, or capable of being used, as a means of transportation on land.

Try this:

Ok now define "Usery" and "Transport"
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:48 PM
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Ok now define "Usery" and "Transport"

better yet, define "artificial". Remember, we were created in the image of God, ie Spirit, therefore, the body which we inhabit is by definition 'artificial' when placed in comparison to the REAL object. The physical body is used to transport the 'spirit' and 'soul'.

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"In this chapter" means that it applies NOWHERE else.

Try this:

This leads me to then ask, 'chapter' of what? The story being told? This is similiar to 'in this state'. 'state' of what? state of mind? All states are corporate creatures of the 'fatherland'. State of XXXXXX is created by the UNITED STATES. There is no longer any sovereignity amongst the STATES OF and the UNITED STATES. Dunn & Bradstreet is additional proof of this. Chambers of Commerce are where to find additional information on this.

There are so many pieces to the puzzle, and if you are missing one piece, then you are missing.

'in this chapter' only applies to what your mind can concieve 'it' to apply to............as limited or as limitless as your mind will allow.

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