Car not in State system

[jessye_1]

My mom has a car she bought from a wrecking yard. This week she went to get tags and was told that as far as the state of Oregon is concerned that car has been parted out and the VIN no longer exists. My thought was that the State no longer owns the car and can not force any one to get tags on the car or insure the car, what do you guys think?

I junked the Certificates of Title for my cars, canceled my insurance, registration, and license, and "drive" my car bearing a [decorative] Canadian plate on the common [postal] roads of the Union states.

I made myself a photo ID bearing my Christian appellation (no Last Name) and nativity (baptismal) date (not Date of Birth), had it Notarized by a State Witness (labeled as such), and got an Apostille to Certify by the State the Notary's legitimacy (and to give my ID a traceable Apostille number). My ID also bears 5 $5 silver (assured value) Washington/Jackson stamps on it, showing that I'm not a pauper, as well as 3 1 cent American Kestrel stamps (bearing the correct cent sign), through which I had the Notary Public make her circular seal, which I then signed through for legal joiner with the Universal Postal Union (via the Stamps) and the State.

The $5 stamps are positioned in the shape of a cross, with no stamp in the center, where I printed 'Non-State, Non-Federal, Non-Commercial, Non-Residential' (to further rebut the presumption that I'm under compact state/federal jurisdiction.

I've no property registered with the State where I'm presumed to Reside.

If/when I'm stopped I'll simply hand the officer my personal ID and, if asked, politely respond that I've no other to provide (to self-incriminate), noting that a Notary Public is a State Official, so while the ID is not State-issued, it is legal ID.

Thankfully, I've not been "tested" yet, after conducting myself in this way for several months, though I know that it's just a matter of time.

I have copies of my Junked Certificates (to use if I need to retrieve my cars from the impound- not to betray myself to commercial cops), as well as Notarized receipts of purchase (bearing 5 $5 silver stamps to show) for my cars purchased (from my all-caps State juristic persona) to show that the cars have been lawfully bought, as vs. being merely 'without encumbrance', and that the State does not own them.

I junked the Certificates of Title for my cars, canceled my insurance, registration, and license, and "drive" my car bearing a [decorative] Canadian plate on the common [postal] roads of the Union states.

I made myself a photo ID bearing my Christian appellation (no Last Name) and nativity (baptismal) date (not Date of Birth), had it Notarized by a State Witness (labeled as such), and got an Apostille to Certify by the State the Notary's legitimacy (and to give my ID a traceable Apostille number). My ID also bears 5 $5 silver (assured value) Washington/Jackson stamps on it, showing that I'm not a pauper, as well as 3 1 cent American Kestrel stamps (bearing the correct cent sign), through which I had the Notary Public make her circular seal, which I then signed through for legal joiner with the Universal Postal Union (via the Stamps) and the State.

The $5 stamps are positioned in the shape of a cross, with no stamp in the center, where I printed 'Non-State, Non-Federal, Non-Commercial, Non-Residential' (to further rebut the presumption that I'm under compact state/federal jurisdiction.

I've no property registered with the State where I'm presumed to Reside.

If/when I'm stopped I'll simply hand the officer my personal ID and, if asked, politely respond that I've no other to provide (to self-incriminate), noting that a Notary Public is a State Official, so while the ID is not State-issued, it is legal ID.

Thankfully, I've not been "tested" yet, after conducting myself in this way for several months, though I know that it's just a matter of time.

I have copies of my Junked Certificates (to use if I need to retrieve my cars from the impound- not to betray myself to commercial cops), as well as Notarized receipts (bearing 5 $5 silver stamps to show) for my cars purchased (from my all-caps State juristic persona) to show that the cars have been lawfully bought, as vs. being merely 'without encumbrance', and that the State does not own them.

oops. sorry for the double-post. I'm new here and don't yet know how to edit.

regarding your mom, she may have problems "driving" her 'junk' car if she uses a State License; if she's stopped and shows it, she may be presumed to be acting on behalf of the State via the 'strawman' (all-caps name on the License/contract) in violation of a contract/Statute which might not allow State citizens/residents to conduct unregistered/ untitled/ uninsured cars on the Public (State, fictional) roads (those for fictional persons liable to Statutes).

my ID also notes that I'm a Constitutional Citizen of the Union States of America (beyond the federal/ compact State jurisdiction in which municipal policy/code/statute is commonly enforced as law).

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by jessye_1

My thought was that the State no longer owns the car and can not force any one to get tags on the car or insure the car, what do you guys think?

The State cannot force anyone to get tags or insure the car either way ;-)

What I think is, I hope she can handle herself at a traffic stop because the storm troopers will make attempts to assert their jurisdiction over her. If she allows them to have ANY evidence (writen or verbal) to back the presumption that she is a U.S. Citizen or resident they will attach process.
One must be ready to sit in jail until they release you because you have held strong to your free man status.

Notifying corporate storm trooper agencies of one's status ahead of time and getting them to agree through default and estoppel will certainly be of benefit.

But the most important thing to learn is how to assert your jurisdiction because their jurisdiction will be pushing against yours and who ever gives in first loses.

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[farmer_giles_of_ham]

Originally Posted by jessye_1

My mom has a car she bought from a wrecking yard. This week she went to get tags and was told that as far as the state of Oregon is concerned that car has been parted out and the VIN no longer exists. My thought was that the State no longer owns the car and can not force any one to get tags on the car or insure the car, what do you guys think?

Thats awesome, my understanding is that the car is no longer a vehicle under the code definition. So none of that can apply. I don't understand what difference it makes the status of the driver in this case, the VC hinges on the device not the person, according to the law as written.

Now the device may not be used to carry, transport, move or propel any person or property. as in, "not allowed or permitted". So it doesn't fit the definition of a vehicle.