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Old 11-15-2004, 11:24 AM
Questor Questor is offline
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Today, I was thinking about why no one at a Yahoo! group which I go to occasionally seems to be having any real success in their actions. Namely, getting around having to have a driver's license when they merely want to travel. This particular group has well over 5 thousand postings on it, and most of the people there seem to have good intentions, but no one there can say definitively, "this is how you do it" yet. So, I started to think about that little anomaly a bit, trying to figure out the WHY for it. And as it often happens, all of a sudden, it came to me. Firstly, we should find out what success is. Let's define it. Now what is the definition of success? It appears that it's the result of the doing of something correctly. So if success isn't coming, then something must be done wrong to some degree. For instance; Is it the right action to take? Is that action being done the right way? Is it the right time to do it? The right place? and probably some other questions too. What is messing up the process so that success isn't occurring?
If we want to tie our shoe laces, we have to take hold of them and perform the needed twisting and pulling actions in their proper sequence in order to get tied shoe laces, right? So what do we have to do in order to get out on the roads and highways in order to travel freely? Whom do we have to contact to find out this data? How about putting the feet of the ones who are supposed to have this data to the fire? Maybe, just maybe, we should stop for a minute, and ask not only of ourself, but the ones who are supposed to know, "just what am I doing wrong here?". Why can't I prevail? What do I have to do in order to win? If the courts can say that we are wrong in our actions, then they should also be able to tell us what we need to do in order to prevail and how to do it.
If the ones who run the court system and various administrations are really public servants, then why don't they serve us and answer up these kinds of questions? Is it because they do not perceive of themselves as such, but more like masters over us, watching out for our "welfare"?
Maybe THAT is the kind of logic which we should be using in our search for an administrative remedy. Perhaps if we were to look at the issues from more than just our own, and sometimes too narrow a point of view, some answers will pop out at us. Instead of charging ahead with the mindset that we are right in every way, we could slow down for a moment and ask what we are doing wrong and how we should go about correcting it. My head isn't so hard that it can stand up to being beaten against a brick wall all day long, day after day.
If we are in the right, then let's get the data which is needed to prove it. And what better source of that proof than the ones who claim that we are wrong? Does any teacher at any school tell the students that they are wrong in their replies, but not tell them why? Some of these public servants might be inclined to put forth the argument that they are not teachers, there to dispell our ignorance. And to that I would answer, "then you may not say that my ignorance of the law is not an excuse, if you are in fact acting to keep me ignorant".

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Old 11-15-2004, 06:28 PM
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Questor,

There is a thousand ways to skin a cat! One way may be more efficient than the other. This also depends on the circumstances of the unique situation.

I thought along the same lines very strongly several years ago, until I realized that you can only change yourself. I have read throughout this site to do your own due diligence before taking action. This advice I would have to say is some of the best advice I have heard and in my case, it has taken quite a while for it to sink in to be meaningful to me.

The Teacher is only good as a teacher if (he/she) is able to learn from the student. as the saying goes "When the student is ready, the teacher will come!"

So try not to take things to seriously, enjoy life, and if the politicians are not doing what you like, vote them out of office.

To bad the politicians and the banksters don't have paparozzi chasing them around. HAHAHA

Good luck in your travels!!!!
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:06 PM
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But the bottom line Chuck is this "is the cat's skin still on or is it off?". From what I've seen so far, it's still pretty much on. So that must not be a very good method. Guys are STILL fighting da man, they're STILL getting thrown in the slammer, they're STILL getting their cars towed and impounded, so what's not being done that should be? They are not going to the source of data that is needed in order to win, that's what. So now we have to figure out an exact method to use to pry this info loose from the ones who have it at the DMV, the courts, the DPS, wherever it may be. I'll build a 50 foot long nuclear powered crowbar if I have to, I just need to know where to shove it in first before I fire that baby up is all!
As to voting any politician of any note out of office, that's impossible because we don't vote them in in the first place anymore! The elections are so rigged it would make Stalin green with envy.

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