Privatizing your car... again

[KITCHIE]

sixth,

I am sure you are aware that Washoe County uses non-registered vehicles as a way to make money on us. They are claiming that you cannot have more than two unregistered cars on your porperty. They don't know what to do about me because I have three cars all of which I drive on the public streets and non of them are registered. So how do they deal with me?

One thing I did file a UCCFS and I have my UCC # posted. Must protect that security interest ya know.

I love it I LOVE IT!!

Kitchie

I only have 1 automobile. So that won't be a problem.

I really don't know too much about the UCC stuff. Do I really need that? I see that as something extra. Plz expand on this if I am wrong here.

[KITCHIE]

By filing my UCC FS I have a superior interest in the security (which is my car) to the state. My motor carriage is not in the public it is in the private. Law enforcement no longer presume I am a commercial driver/operator. Also should they stop you and you tell them you are taking care of personal business etc., and you happen to have someone with you... and the policeman says who is your passanger, you politely tell him I do not have any passangers. I have a guest that I invited to come along with me. You see a passanger is a paying customer.

Kitchie

So the UCC filing basically determines ownership of the car, right?

Or you already own the car, but the UCC filing would prove it in court if someone else made a claim?

I don't think anyone would claim ownership on my pos truck. But i could see how the UCC filing might help me if the government tried to tow my truck away.

[KITCHIE]

Yes the UCC filing along with your security agreement overrides state interest. The state "presumes" they own it and that you are involved in a commercial activity until you tell them they don't own it and you are just taking care of your personnel business.

That Is why I post it in/on my motor Carriage that it is private not for hire

Kitchie

yay, i just spent 11 days (and nights) in jail.

i'm pissed. my truck is in the pound, and its too expensive to get it out.

well i did a lot of thinking while in there.

I decided there were at least 5 kind of people when it comes to the government (mafia)

1. People who are scared and therefore follow.
2. People who follow cause it aint worth the hassles for them to stand up.
3. People who actually abuse the government privelages (welfare, ssi, etc)
4. People who travel, and live normally, but stand up for their god given rights.
5. People who are outlaws.

Well, if you are in #4 category. Good luck, and i hope u don't have lots of commitments and ****, cause its hard to hold to your commitments when u are in jail.

On with my story. I denied being the fiction when pulled over. I had no tags, no plates, no nothing.

They found an old license in my truck and decided to arrest me using that fiction.

Well, no doubt I could have beat them, but whats the purpose if I have to spend more time in jail than if I just went along with the show.

Well, for the first 2 times I saw a judge, they got real mad when I asked if he was calling a flesh and blood man or a fiction. But because the judge never formally charged the real me, i figure i'm winning. Then it hits me. They gonna keep me in this joint for 6 weeks, then they gonna lose the paperwork or whatever. Anyway after 11 days of this, i decided to get out, so i pleaded guilty and got time served.

My point is not that this stuff don't work, its just that if you are in jail for something they consider a misdemeanor, it certainly aint worth it. If your in jail facing a prison sentence then by all means, go for it.

well, everybody's situtation is different. it depends on your ability to bond out or not sometimes. it depends on how much you have to lose to sit sometimes. but always remember, EVERYTHING THEY DO IS FRAUD, so, its not wrong if you cop a plea deal to get out of the situation at hand and then fight them from outside the jail. you cannot get things done in jail most times, especially the type of stuff we do. most jails are even set up so that you cannot get to law librarys, they will not file stuff into your case for you, etc. etc. so they steer you to cop a plea. do it if you have to and then slam them for the fraud.

[TheBlackTruth]

Yeah. Jail Sucks. Jail really sucks.

Welcome back to the world of the deceived-to-be-free.

A few points to be made:

We all try to avoid having to go to court, but once you're there, its best to follow their rules. I know there are opinions floating around on this forum that suggest you should refuse to cooperate, but now that you've spent in 11 days in jail, i'm sure you have a slightly different perspective on that. I too spent a little time (only a couple of days) inside and had my eyes opened to this as well.

You have a remedy available to you, even when you follow the rules. It's just harder to come by and you will be met with much resistance. Learn the rules of court for your state. Know how to use the system to your advantage. Learn to write extraordinary writs (direct access to your common-law rights to due process).

As for now, the first order of business is to get your auto back. What state did this take place in?

-BT

they dont follow the rules either, its a crapshoot blacktruth. depends on the judge and the situation, thats why we have this freedom movement. we know the law, its easy to go learn the rules and stuff, thats the whole problem. ive won cases using all kinds of remedies, "freedom stuff" and conventional court stuff, just depends.

[KITCHIE]

Why didn't you post Private Not for Hire in your window or something? I drove my 1978 Dodge Power Wagon with my notice in the window and was followed by Sparks Police. He went his way and I went mine. Shoot even Reno cops don't mess with me any more.

Kitchie