Privatizing your car... again

[gldskr]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

Good point, try this instead:

A letter to DMV aka the State Saying: By registering this vehicle with this State, I do hereby give this State a equal security interest in this vehicle. I give this State co-ownership of this vehicle. Since this vehicle is no longer only mine, this State agrees to total liability when I am licensed by this State to drive the vehicle.

So Dillon, what has changed? The vehicle is still registered as a motor vehicle and is subject to those regulations. The registered owner (you) will still have to buy the insurance. They may underwrite the policy (I doubt it) but you will still have to pay for it. And why would they accept total liability when they aren't the ones using it?

Originally Posted by Dillon

I am looking for new ideas of dealing with DMV, got any suggestions? Think outside the box ! We need to out smart them at their own game or move the game somewhere else.

What you seem to be missing is that it is their game, their sandbox. The only way to out smart them is to not play the game. To do this you must not register your vehicle, or if you have, you must de-register it. That is the only way. Registration is your affirmation that you wish to play. It is the affirmative act that transforms your right to travel into a regulated privilege.

Originally Posted by TKL

Right now, I am going through the process of correcting my status and have sent letters to govt agencies letting them know who I am and who I am not - for one thing I am a NOT a creation of the govt; they do not give me rights.

Soon I will truly establish my Sovereignty but the system is a freakin matrix. But slowly and surely, one step at a time, I will get there.

How will correcting your status help you? Are you undergoing a sex change operation or something? Your status is already cast in stone as a sovereign state citizen and there is nothing that you or anyone else can do to change it. Of course if you have entered into agreements with corporate entities as a surety you will have to abide by these agreements or take the necessary steps to extricate yourself therefrom. Perhaps this is what you refer.

In three words it boils down to this; jurisdiction, jurisdiction, jurisdiction.

gldskr

[Dillon Hunt]

Originally Posted by gldskr

So Dillon, what has changed? The vehicle is still registered as a motor vehicle and is subject to those regulations. The registered co-owner (they) will still have to buy the insurance. They may underwrite the policy (I doubt it) but they will still have to pay for it. And why would they accept total liability when they aren't the ones using it?

In three words it boils down to this; jurisdiction, jurisdiction, jurisdiction.

gldskr

If they agree to license me, they agree to total liability.
By the acceptance of my license application they agree to be totally liable. They don't have to license me to drive it is voluntary on their part.

In three words in boils down to this; agreements, agreements, agreements.

D.H.

[RickA]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

If they agree to license me, they agree to total liability.
By the acceptance of my license application they agree to be totally liable. They don't have to license me to drive it is voluntary on their part.

In three words in boils down to this; agreements, agreements, agreements.

D.H.

In no way am I saying to do this, but I'm with Gldskr on this one. The only difference between what you propose and what they expect is that you want them to take full responsibility for your actions. They simply will not do that and rightfully so. So, either register and comply fully or, have absolutely nothing to do with registration in any way shape or form.

[Dillon Hunt]

Originally Posted by RickA

In no way am I saying to do this, but I'm with Gldskr on this one. The only difference between what you propose and what they expect is that you want them to take full responsibility for your actions. They simply will not do that and rightfully so. So, either register and comply fully or, have absolutely nothing to do with registration in any way shape or form.

That my point they will not agree and accept my application to register my private car with the
State/DMV.

I offered they rejected it voluntarily !

Thanks!

We need to think outside the box.

Dillon

[RickA]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

That my point they will not agree and accept my application to register private car with the State/DMV.

Thanks for making my point!

Dillon

Lol.....glad I could help.

[gldskr]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

That my point they will not agree and accept my application to register my private car with the
State/DMV.

So Dillon, what you are saying is that by offering them a nonsense agreement you have accomplished something, please elaborate. All I see is a waste of time and your vehicle is still unregistered, exactly where you want to be in the first place.

gldskr

[Dillon Hunt]

Originally Posted by gldskr

So Dillon, what you are saying is that by offering them a nonsense agreement you have accomplished something, please elaborate. All I see is a waste of time and your vehicle is still unregistered, exactly where you want to be in the first place.

gldskr

A nonsense agreement is what I consider the application to register a motor vehicle!

If I have to go to court I can tell the magistrate, "I tried to register my private car but DMV would not accept the Appllication."

thanks Dillon

P.S. It always good to have a few witnesses to the incident.