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Old 11-21-2004, 01:39 AM
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Privatizing your car... again

Okay, another process on how to (possibly) get true ownership of your car back, from the jusbelli.com website:

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5. Your vehicle has an automatic perfected security interest placed on them when you register them, but of course it isn't shown at the local UCC office. How nice of them to exclude the disclosure of this. From the Bankers Book of 1987 on types of Secured Transaction § 29-90 we find the following:

"§29-85 MOTOR VEHICLES

Motor vehicles require registration in most states and are subject of special state legislation that provides for the issuance of a certificate of title show the ownership interests in the vehicle. When this is the case, the Code rules on perfection of security interests are modified to accommodate the certificate-of-title requirements [UCC §9-302(3)] Security interest in the motor vehicle will be perfected only by notation of the security interest, in compliance with the certificate-of-title law of the jurisdiction on the certificate of title. The compliance with the special certificate-of-title requirements is then regarded by the Code as "equivalent to the filing of a financing statement" and will perfect the security interest in the vehicle.

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Motor vehicle are not the only type of collateral subject to certificate-of-title statutes. There are statutes of this nature that apply to mobile homes, boats, farm tractors, trailers, and similar items."

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Translated, when you register your vehicle, there is an automatic UCC 1 financial statement with a perfected security interest that is not show to the benefit of the state [we have not identified the entity with the perfected security interest yet as the state of Alaska is being very evasive - I wonder why? There is probably $10 Billion of vehicles being used as collateral for someone's benefit that we don't know on the CAFR's [comprehensive annual financial report - much closer to the true story on the states money] or Budget of State of Alaska.

I have been driving a blue pickup since July 4th, 1998 with no tags or registration and have been to jail several time for this. But I am learning.

I have now what I believe [BELIEVE] to be the answer to truly owning your vehicle. Currently, if you have it registered, you are in a government vehicle and are subject to all the rules they make up.

a. The perfected security interest goes on here in Alaska AS 45.09.302(8)(c) and (1) of (c). AS 28.10 in this section is the vehicle registration.

At the national level, you can see this at §9-302 (3)

b. The perfected security interest goes OFF at §9-103 (2) b "but in any event not beyond surrender of the certificate."

In Alaska you can see this at Title 45.09.103 (b)(1).

So you need to first file a UCC 1 on you vehicle, then you need to "surrender" the certificate of title, tags, registration to your local State Department of Vehicle, you can then have new tags made up that we are going to test that say "UCC 1 and the six digit number at the UCC such as 466890" We will give the police notice and go fight the battle. They want it registered, you have complied, but now you are the Creditor vs. the Debtor. Tell the guy to have a nice day and leave you alone. The tickets are on $75 dollars each and there are no points on your license. We can then arrest the policeman if he shows up in the presence of the magistrate in court, use the 4 questions and the final statement to fend them off, file criminal complaints in opposition to theirs, etc. Fun, Fun, Fun!!!!!!!!!

You can also file the UCC 1 on your vehicle, then surrender the stuff above, then wait a few days and get a NEW CERTIFICATE OF TITLE #, new tags, etc. Your UCC 1 in above theirs that is not shown and their ticket power is zero. It will be a fight, but a few of the Anchorage Policemen are beginning to listen. As a creditor, we should now be able to take the policeman's toys and house, as we can now make a "statement of claim." See Blacks 6th dictionary.

The authority of Anchorage, a municipal corporation for their PROPERTY is at the following: [ignore the heading as earlier in the title 9, it states that heading have no effect - just a ruse.] Title 9 - tickets, etc. apply only to government folks and their vehicles!

9.08.060 Applicability of traffic regulations to public employees.

The provisions of this title shall apply to the drivers of all vehicles owned or operated by the United States, the state or any borough, town, district or any other political subdivision of the state, subject to the specific exemptions as are set forth in this title or in the state Vehicle Code.

(CAC 9.08.060; AO No. 78-7)
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Old 11-21-2004, 05:48 AM
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You have picqued my interest rushpat!!! good work!!!

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Old 11-22-2004, 10:54 AM
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Looks like the guy that wrote that put it into action:


http://www.jusbelli.com/drivers_license.html
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Old 01-14-2005, 06:12 PM
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It seems that every time government needs money they put more laws on the books and send out cops to rack in the cash. $100 dollars for a ticket is quite a bit of money for most people and tickets are one of the few things that keep up with inflation along with taxes.
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Well I drove my old 1978 dodge Power Wagon into town yesterday, no license plates and no registration. I had my notice in the window registered UCC # and Private Not For Hire. Sparks Police came up behind me and stayed with me for a time including the red light I was sitting at. I went down the road a way and then pulled into a parking lot. He nice policeman kept right on going. I just love this!!!!!!!

I believe I am going to surrender my DL and just get an ID. Since they don't stop me for my car, how they gonna stop me for a DL?

I am also banking on using FED law since they get fed funding for streets and highways. Fed law say Motor Vehilce is for hire.

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Old 02-05-2005, 03:02 PM
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he probably thought u had a drive out tag. lol just kidding, but, are you positive that he glanced at your document and realized what it meant?
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:59 AM
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I am positive that he sat behind me at the red light for two minutes while waiting to make a left hand turn. Unless he was half blind he could not miss my unobstructed notice posted 5 feet above the ground, white background with dark blue letters and numbers. And then he was behind me for about 3/4 of a mile after that. And there was VERY light traffic only two or three cars over four lanes. No law enforcement agency stops me any more. They observe call in and keep movin on. It is sooooo much fun.

So I'm thinking I am going to turn in my DL and just get an ID. And the only reason to get an ID is for check cashing stuff at the casino.

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Old 02-06-2005, 03:19 PM
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Kitchie,

As of today, i have no Drivers License, no License Plates or stickers, and my automobile is not registered with the state.

On the back of my brown toyota truck, I have painted in bright silver:

PRIVATE NOT FOR HIRE

I'll keep you updated on how the Washoe County government agencies deal with this.
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Old 02-07-2005, 01:03 AM
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well, if we havent heard from you in a couple days, we know why. lol, just kidding again, lol. anyway, i hope it works.
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