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Old 11-17-2005, 06:41 AM
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Hi all. As I appear to be "Waking up" I have many questions and few answers, one of which is this. After speaking to a real Estate broker
recently he mentioned (in reference to my application)ways of making bending the law without breaking it concerning the Mortgage.
I could see he was hinting at something on the lines of true Knowledge of the Law. I did'nt express my passion on this subject to him, as in the past the resistance has left me emotionally drained. Anyway he went on to use an example, he said his friend had been speeding in the Interstate and was pulled over by a cop, who (after the routine Im your superior routine) gave him a ticket, he refused it explaining that his jurisdiction was not the Interstate and only the state trooper could site him and he got away with it. I smiled and left it alone. As much as it makes sense to me Im still curious, does anyone know if this is true and if it is does it work the other way too?
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:43 AM
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Old 11-17-2005, 05:08 PM
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Hi all. As I appear to be "Waking up" I have many questions and few answers, one of which is this. After speaking to a real Estate broker
recently he mentioned (in reference to my application)ways of making bending the law without breaking it concerning the Mortgage.
I could see he was hinting at something on the lines of true Knowledge of the Law. I did'nt express my passion on this subject to him, as in the past the resistance has left me emotionally drained. Anyway he went on to use an example, he said his friend had been speeding in the Interstate and was pulled over by a cop, who (after the routine Im your superior routine) gave him a ticket, he refused it explaining that his jurisdiction was not the Interstate and only the state trooper could site him and he got away with it. I smiled and left it alone. As much as it makes sense to me Im still curious, does anyone know if this is true and if it is does it work the other way too?
Hesed, your friend is correct. Every cop's jurisdiction is limited, and specified, unless he is in hot pursuit, leaving his jurisdiciton. Otherwise he has no more authority to pull you over on the interstate than the garbage man does. Although, here in Illinois, the local municipalities have been working with state police in our cities and towns, especially near holidays. A power that was never given them by the legislature.
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:21 PM
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Although, here in Illinois, the local municipalities have been working with state police in our cities and towns, especially near holidays.

I've seen Illinois State Troopers setting up speed traps in town in Granite City, Illinois. And I've also noticed quite a few cops (especially in Pontoon Beach, Illinois) really do not like it when you mention either your rights or their limited jurisdiction/authority.They tend to get somewhat hostile.

Unfortunately, now that I really WANT to get stopped, they won't bother me. Go figure!

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Old 11-17-2005, 08:06 PM
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JWR,

Have you got a buddy to roleplay hard with? When that sunglassed face peers DOWN at you through the window, you gotta know your lines. Also, you better be traveling with your digital recorder(if only for self education). I was pretty pompous about my last traffic stop with my reaction and words a few months later, but in listening to my voice on the recorder, one could tell I was in new country!
In my opinion, traffic stops and traffic court are the way to cut your teeth!
I wish you the best. Know who you are. Breathe deep before he raps on your window!
Hesed, I hope you get your house. Be sure to sign "properly."
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:04 PM
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Hi all. As I appear to be "Waking up" I have many questions and few answers, one of which is this. After speaking to a real Estate broker
recently he mentioned (in reference to my application)ways of making bending the law without breaking it concerning the Mortgage.
I could see he was hinting at something on the lines of true Knowledge of the Law. I did'nt express my passion on this subject to him, as in the past the resistance has left me emotionally drained. Anyway he went on to use an example, he said his friend had been speeding in the Interstate and was pulled over by a cop, who (after the routine Im your superior routine) gave him a ticket, he refused it explaining that his jurisdiction was not the Interstate and only the state trooper could site him and he got away with it. I smiled and left it alone. As much as it makes sense to me Im still curious, does anyone know if this is true and if it is does it work the other way too?

WITHOUT PREJUDICE
The State of Georgia once told a few municipals who perhaps were out to make some loot (?) or were just bored (?) to STAY OFF THE HIGHWAY and quit bugging people.

Keep in mind as you roll down a highway that you might see an interstate highway number (in red, white and blue) and a state highway number (in white). They even have interestate highways in Hawaii.

Hmmm... perhaps maybe if you are a trucker shippping goods from FL to TN then you are on the interstate highway and if you are a courier going from Atlanta city to Mayretta you are on the state highway...and if you are just a little old lady going to church you're on the common ways? Maybe?
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:22 AM
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I've seen Illinois State Troopers setting up speed traps in town in Granite City, Illinois. And I've also noticed quite a few cops (especially in Pontoon Beach, Illinois) really do not like it when you mention either your rights or their limited jurisdiction/authority.They tend to get somewhat hostile.

Unfortunately, now that I really WANT to get stopped, they won't bother me. Go figure!
JWR

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i understand your feelings, have you taken off your tags yet? just leave them at home this is sure to get you at least noticed.

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Old 11-18-2005, 06:28 AM
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i understand your feelings, have you taken off your tags yet? just leave them at home this is sure to get you at least noticed.

str8raor

Hehehe, you're right on that one. What I'm saying is that I would follow their "rules" and get bothered. Things like getting stopped for having a pine tree air freshener hanging from the rear-view mirror, sitting in my car eating lunch in the state park and getting threatened for not letting them search the car, being a guest in my brothers car when he got stopped for a crack in his windshield and getting threatened for not wanting to tell them who I am or what my business is (the list can go on for quite a while).

This is what I'm getting at, I want to be stopped without my doing anything "wrong". I don't want to invite trouble nor do I have the time to devote to yet another battle. And all this stuff happened before I really knew what my rights are (not that I'm saying I know all I need to know as I really don't). I don't know, maybe I just want to have a little fun at their expense, like maybe at one of those many sobriety check points or being out late at night and looking "suspicious". I just have to be myself for that one.

I even done an experiment several years back. I usually wear a bandana on my head. One day I decided to put on a camo ball cap. For a while I wasn't bothered. Put the bandana back on and guess what, a couple days later, stopped again. Done this for a while, back and forth. Guess I was being profiled.

And scottinalaska, unfortunately I seem to be in this alone as there is noone I know that would rather be educated and informed than entertained. I don't have a digital recorder but I'm gonna have to dig out my tape recorder and start taking it with me. A digital recorder sounds pretty cool though. Have to check into it.

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Old 11-18-2005, 08:58 AM
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"Hesed, your friend is correct. Every cop's jurisdiction is limited, and specified, unless he is in hot pursuit, leaving his jurisdiciton. Otherwise he has no more authority to pull you over on the interstate than the garbage man does. Although, here in Illinois, the local municipalities have been working with state police in our cities and towns, especially near holidays. A power that was never given them by the legislature.

Question answered Thanks

@ JWR: The same guy has been harrased ever since so your right they dont like it. Are you saying that it is the same the other way round and also you want to be stopped? also your confidence is somewhat admirable, I seriously doubt if Im ready for those conflicts but when it happens I'll deal with it, but then again I usually drive safely and do the limit, I have this new love for doing thoings as well as I can as long as its outside the boundaries of
submission to corporate bullying.

@Scottinalaska Thanks I still have lots of reading to do on the whole process
Im thinking of just doing the regular Mortgage thing then transfering the asset to my private self??????
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:15 PM
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@ JWR: The same guy has been harrased ever since so your right they dont like it. Are you saying that it is the same the other way round and also you want to be stopped? also your confidence is somewhat admirable, I seriously doubt if Im ready for those conflicts but when it happens I'll deal with it, but then again I usually drive safely and do the limit, I have this new love for doing thoings as well as I can as long as its outside the boundaries of
submission to corporate bullying.
Hey Hesed,
Yeah, I really do want to get stopped but, I want to do it in such a way as to not be doing anything "wrong", maybe getting stopped at one of those sobriety check points. It actually can be kinda fun. Still need to get my tape recorder before that happens.

I am not really that confident in my knowledge nor do I see what I do or what I know and believe as being very admirable. There are others here fit that description, not me. I see it as something we should all be doing anyway.

But education is key to being confident. I suggest this before ever entering any fight. A lot of us didn't, including me. Confidence levels can be quite low when you really aren't prepared for it. And as scottinalaska suggested, roleplaying is a valuable tool, a tool I don't have.

And I guess that is why I have such a problem with the police. The ones I've dealt with, even the ones I've known personally, were arrogant, paranoid, and believe everyone the see are criminals.

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