Application for DL

[KITCHIE]

I went in to renew my DL today at an express location. I told them I lost my DL and I was here to renew my expired one. They gave my a blue form to fill out. I did not put my SSN on it and when I signed the thing I signed - By name authorized Rep and without prejudice above my name. She asked me for some ID and I handed her an ID I made with my UCC FS number on it. It also had my name address height etc. Well they wouldn't accept it. Said I have to have three forms of ID examples work ID, a SSN, bank debit card. I said I don't have those and you already have my ssn and my driving record. Still they wouldn't do it. She said they cannot confirm my signature..."we don't have the equipment to verify your signature here." So as I started to leave she took the signed application, and I grabbed it from her and said "I'm not filling this out again!"

I believe that signed app she was trying to keep was going to be monitized. Why else wouldn't she just let me keep it?

I am only renewing it so I can cancell it. Just need to learn a little more before I do that.

Kitchie

[Vincenzo]

Good 4 you, you guttsy women. Great Job...........Vincenzo

Kitchie,in order to have your signature validated,you need two witnessis.
That is THEIR requirment,if you do not have any form of picture ID.

When you fill the application,commercial agreement,do it in duplicate.
Make all the necessary reservations," I do not agree,I do not consent,
I do not intent,I have reserved all my natural rights and sign it <Without
prejudice UCC 1-207> ".

If THEY give you the DL,and your name is not the same way you wrote it on the application,reject the DL.Tell THEM that,the name on the DL is not yours.

Then you can go ahead and rescind the application.
Get a receipt for the cash you paid,and record the duplicate.

You can also ask a straight forward question:if I travel on my own auto,not
for hire,do I need a DL ?

One thing to keep in mind,you only can travel on an auto that is not
licensed under any State.

Try your luck,your only failure would be for the lack of it.

Adrian

[KITCHIE]

Adrian,

Thanks for the input. I tried most of your suggestions and everything failed. I did however emphasize that I did not have any license plates and registration so why did I need a driver license when I am not for hire. They just said because the law says so. I said well the "law" says I must have license plates and registration too and I have learned that is NOT the case. Answer, "if you wat a driver license sign it without ucc." So I did. However I managed to get cf in front of my name!! cf is coacus fici -- under threat duress or coersion!!

We'll see if they revoke it when or if they discover that.

Kitchie

One thing to do is to serve them via Registered Mail that any document that you have signed, including an alleged license, is something that you do not understand, and that the only signature of yours that is valid on any document or agreement that they have is as follows:


Jane Wise Doe, All Rights Reserved, Without Prejudice


Any other signature you have on file is not my signature, because I only sign government documents with the signature above.

I hereby revoke and rescind all signatures on file that do not match the above signature. You have two options at this point: (1) Allow me to apply my signature as shown above, or (2) consider all contracts cancelled and all documents containing any signature not as above null and void.

If I am forced by the DMV to sign any document in any fashion other than the exact wording above, it will be under duress, and witnessed by two witnesses who will sign affidavits stating that they witnessed the duress firsthand.

Demand is hereby given to disclose any reasons that I cannot sign my signature as above, as my signature is my property. If this demand is not met within the 30 days below, it will be your nihil dicit and tacit agreement that I have the right to sign my name only as shown above, and that all other signatures are revoked and rescinded.

Demand is hereby given to show where I waived my right to freely travel and placed myself under your jurisdiction while having full disclosure. If this demand is not met within the 30 days below, it will be your nihil dicit and tacit agreement that I have the right to freely travel without license or permission.

Your response is demanded within 30 days, or you give your nihil dicit and tacit agreement that my statements stand as truth at law and can be used to my advantage in any court or setting.


This is not advice. I just shot this from the hip. For Entertainment purposes only.

HB

Dear HenryBowman, do not entertain me. They give me some "testosterone" determination (I don't know from where since I have no testes). But never mind. I love your concise, simple and impossible to refute statements. Keep posting, as you always do. I have been able to conceive some plans to break some bones with your "entertaining" ideas.

[KITCHIE]

On the document I signed saying I lost my DL I signed it "without prejudice" on top and By name and Auth.Rep. underneith. They had a bit of a problem with it and I stuck to my "guns" and said that's the way I sign all government docs to protect myself from hidden contracts. They looked at me like I ws crazy. That's ok I am crazy to get one of thier DL's!!

Thanks for the input Henry I appreciate all the input I get.

Kitchie

[EnSabahNur]

Originally Posted by KITCHIE

Adrian,

Thanks for the input. I tried most of your suggestions and everything failed. I did however emphasize that I did not have any license plates and registration so why did I need a driver license when I am not for hire. They just said because the law says so. I said well the "law" says I must have license plates and registration too and I have learned that is NOT the case. Answer, "if you wat a driver license sign it without ucc." So I did. However I managed to get cf in front of my name!! cf is coacus fici -- under threat duress or coersion!!

We'll see if they revoke it when or if they discover that.

Kitchie

I now sign EVERYTHING (DL and Insurance) "Authorized representative with P.O.A, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, Signature."

I have got some odd looks, but if they say "what is that?", I say "My Signature". End of story.

My brother just renewed today and signed like that, no problem.

It means that is not my DL, I am simply the Authorized rep for that legal fiction. And HE reserves all his rights, as a legal fiction. I am NOT linking myself to the contract of the Driver's License.

I will tolerate the Extortion fee for now for the pretended "Privellidge" of driving simply so that I do not get harassed anymore, it's only $50. But I also have the large "NOT FOR HIRE" sign in the back window. If I get pulled over for any reason and they ask for my license I still tell them I don't have one( since I don't, but my legal fiction Registered Business does, just in case he ever needs it) and that's when the roadside fun starts.

Don't give an inch.

Originally Posted by Eureka

Dear HenryBowman, do not entertain me. They give me some "testosterone" determination (I don't know from where since I have no testes). But never mind. I love your concise, simple and impossible to refute statements. Keep posting, as you always do. I have been able to conceive some plans to break some bones with your "entertaining" ideas.

Eureka,

I am unfortunately too deep in my own fights at the moment to post anything very deep.

I am studying my hiney off, and working like a trojan, but I believe it will pay off, and when it does, I'd like to "entertain" all the time.


I am always going to be a student, but the best students are teachers, and I am trying to give something (albeit never enough) back to this place.

I cannot say enough how much I appreciate SJ for the venue and the fellowship.

I don't have time to get into any threads that require a lot of thought, because my mind is so full of things I need to put in, that I don't want to cloud title to my brain cells.

Thanks, but the real thanks is to people on here who were here long before I knew what a CPN was.

If I start calling names, I will leave someone out by mistake, so I'll just leave it at that.

Keep reading Psalm 18, and keep believing.

HB

[KITCHIE]

What happens when you sign like that is they cut it off!! It's a digital handwriting so they cut off the bottom and if you sign without prejudice on top they cut that off too. On my Application I signed that way though!!

Kitchie