Toll Booths

I wanna know how to avoid Toll Booths.

Can we brainstorm this?

Bob

[weishaupt1776]

I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard that the toll booths are set up to pay for the initial building of the road itself and then are supposed to cease once it's broken even

You ever known a politician to stop asking for money?

Bob

[Fazer700]

Weis,

That is what they told the people in New Jersey when they built the Garden State Parkway. "As soon as we pay off the bonds, we sold to build the road, we will remove the toll booths."

Every couple of years something magical happens and they need to widen a section or repave a section or redo a bridge and then. Whoops we need to sell more bonds to cover the costs to do these projects.

It is such an inefficient system that 3/4 of the revenue collected goes to paying the cost of collecting the revenue. A toll collecter in New Jersey with over time can make over $100,000 per year. The highest paid toll collecter made more than the Governor of New Jersey.

As you can tell this topic strikes a nerve. Dont get me started on the EZ-PASS debacle.

Fazer

[weishaupt1776]

I remember when I lived in Long Island, I got lost coming from N.Y.C. and wound up in NJ. It cost about $20 in tolls just to go through that trap & back the other way to go to NY. That was in '89-'90.

It's funny when you talk to people from the NE and you say you moved from there because of tolls and other crap up there and they say "So you couldn't deal with life"

I always say back, "If that's your definition of 'life', then you can have that 'life' "

New Yorkers are the worst with that attitude. They think that NY is it and that NY is the definition of reality.

The truth is that the prevailing attitude and knowledge of most NorEasters about what America is really supposed to be is probably the most distorted.
People up there should work on correcting their status to that of a DeJure national and walk around with their piece exposed just like the cops

[Fazer700]

I know so many people that haved moved away because "life" is way to expensive. I would guess 40% of the people I work with had to move to Pennsylvania and now commute to New Jersey or New York City because of property taxes, its way to expensive to live here. I would tell anyone that moved away for expense reasons. ie taxes or tolls. Good for you, you are smarter than me. :-) I went looking in New Hampshire this winter for property I want to move away also. I still have to convince the wife and kids.


Fazer

I want to move out to some rural place so I can work the land and slowly but surely build up my food supply and prepare my fortress. But where?...Is not Florida overpopulated and too controlled by our police state?

i would like others to add to Weis comments on this matter. Got to be differences among the states that would work to our bnefit.

[weishaupt1776]

We'll have to create a new topic, as this one is on the subject of tolls

No tolls in rural areas, I think. An scenery without tolls carried me away from the subject.

On tolls: Many people buy a Sunpass in my overpopulated city. I think they are being monitored with this new "convenience". I prefer to wait in line and pay cash with my own hand because of it.

[rushpat]

Well, the simple answer is to find another route that doesnt' involve toll booths. Of course, that's simple for me to say, since I live in Atlanta, and can only think of one toll booth in the area, which is easily avoided...