Traffic Ticket - Page 2

suijuris · #11 05-11-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

That doesn't work. Not a very good strategy.

Where have I heard that before... hmmm.

PANICPASS · #12 05-11-2005, 07:57 PM

Campy, I have Marc's book. Yes, lots of good stuff in there if you have to appear in court.

The woman who was recently Tasered for refusing to sign a ticket -- I wonder what would have happened to me had I refused to sign the ticket last night. Would I have been given the shock treatment?

Seattle City pagans at it again:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/f269a8f4-c1...00e2511c8.html

Pregnant woman 'Tasered' by police is convicted

By HECTOR CASTRO
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

She was rushing her son to school. She was eight months pregnant. And she was about to get a speeding ticket she didn't think she deserved.

So when a Seattle police officer presented the ticket to Malaika Brooks, she refused to sign it. In the ensuing confrontation, she suffered burns from a police Taser, an electric stun device that delivers 50,000 volts.

"Probably the worst thing that ever happened to me," Brooks said, in describing that morning during her criminal trial last week on charges of refusing to obey an officer and resisting arrest.

She was found guilty of the first charge because she never signed the ticket, but the Seattle Municipal Court jury could not decide whether she resisted arrest, the reason the Taser was applied.

To her attorneys and critics of police use of Tasers, Brooks' case is an example of police overreaction.

PANICPASS · #13 05-12-2005, 07:12 AM

Weis, why won't joining the Indian Nation work? What have you heard? Last time I heard they temporarily? weren't accepting applications. What do you know?

"She was found guilty of the first charge because she never signed the ticket, but the Seattle Municipal Court jury could not decide whether she resisted arrest, the reason the Taser was applied."

So the jury couldn't decide whether she resisted arrest. That should have been an easy decision. Was she told she was under arrest? Was she threatened with arrest? If not, then she did not resist arrest. Threatened by bodily harm is not an arrest.

The cop reminds me of the book:

Obedience to Authority by Stanley Milgram. Interesting book about

"Behavior that is unthinkable in an individual who is acting on his own may be executed without hesitation when carried out under orders."

"This well designed and brilliantly executed research study, reported in an unusually fascinating and very readable style, reveals the elusive and sometimes shocking conditions under which men obey authority regardless of the morality involved." Library Journal

In my opinion anyone who carries out orders to apply a Taser to a pregnant woman, or anyone for that matter, is nothing more than STUPID.

Freedomless · #14 05-12-2005, 09:26 AM

Are your laws such that you can be pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt?

I have been fighting this law since it's inception. Check out this link.

http://www.fee.org/vnews.php?nid=5192

weishaupt1776 · #15 05-12-2005, 11:24 AM

PANIC, I was half-busting on Bill Smith's usual negative replies.

But, on a more serious note, I believe there is a more effective way as discussed in the Red Amendment

PANICPASS · #16 05-12-2005, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Freedomless

Are your laws such that you can be pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt?

I have been fighting this law since it's inception. Check out this link.

http://www.fee.org/vnews.php?nid=5192

I did have my seatbelt on. The strap that automatically wraps around me when I get into my car was broke--the bottom part was fine. I was given a ticket for the broken strap. Big deal. I was wearing the seatbelt.

I do advocate seatbelts for children, but I do believe like the article says- it should be up to you whether to wear one or not-- not governments.

TheBlackTruth · #17 05-13-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PANICPASS

Thanks BT, but it is not going to make one bit of difference if it is in writing. Your chances of winning a Trial By Dec. is less than court, unless it is blaringly obvious the cop was wrong.

I'm going to call the court about the registration and insurance. It doesn't seem right at all - I didn't know cops had that kind of decision making power-- Something that is obviously correctable, but because the cop doesn't like you, it isn't correctable. Unbelievable.

This may be true, but in most states, an appeal from a Trial by Written Declaration is always de novo and in court!

-BT