Travel Discuss how to reclaim the right to travel freely, public access, etc.


Go Back   Suijuris Forums > Educational & Learning > Travel
User Name
Password

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-02-2005, 02:57 PM
fulltitle's Avatar
fulltitle fulltitle is offline
Come and Get Some!
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: kingdom of heaven
Posts: 1,577
Is a "Vehicle" an "Automobile"?

WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Is a "vehicle" an "automobile"?

I am convinced that until one knows the answer to such a question then their level of knowledge and comprehension as concerns the legalities relating to the right to travel may remain incomplete.

It does see tha the word 'vehicle' relates quite directly to the word 'con*VEY*ance'. Consider the word VEY*hicle. Is not a vehicle the title and papers associated? A virtual bundle of promises and bonds perhaps floating mystically around an automobile? When a title to an automobile changes from one to another was it not, therefore, conveyed?

By having title conveyance being manage by the state, is the state seen as enforcer of your rights? If someone gets up early in the morning before you do and decides to take you automoble for a ride would you call 911 and expect them to do something because of a belief that there exists a matter concerning the conveyance of title to thyself which the state must enforce? If you junk the title then the matter of who the automobile belongs becomes something which the state durst not know right? Becomes a matter of possession then eh?

Does this mean that a boat is a boat until there are promises and such likesame paperwork associated? Does it then become a vessel? So does it remain true that vessels and vehicles are not the physical mechanations? Are they instead titles/bonds/papers seen through a scope of peculiar and particular jurisprudence?

So when you are asked by a state officer to step out of your vehicle (the thing conveyed), are you not being asked to step out of that which has been conveyed? [Psst, are those state tags prima facia evidence of *conveyance*?] And when you call it a "vehicle ID number" rather than a "chassis serial number" what exactly are you saying?

Seems then it does indeed seem that a conveyance is perhaps ony pertains to title to a mechanation (cars, motorcycles) whose rights to ownership therein have been conveyed (by means of title transfer). It does also seem that vehicles are not things that go 60MPH unless that is how fast a travel titles from one to another.

---
Not necessarily either an indorsement or a subscription. Just an observation.

Last edited by fulltitle : 07-02-2005 at 07:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-06-2005, 12:18 AM
logos logos is offline
Practice Makes Perfect
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Connecticut Republic
Posts: 266
Send a message via AIM to logos
You post some thought provoking words. Please continue!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:49 AM.
Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 2.4.0
2003-2008 Copyright by Law Research Group, LLC Terms of Use | Sitemap | Privacy Policy | Notice/Disclaimer