zip code voluntary and jurisdiction

[idknow]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

The artist formerly known as Section 122.32

is now in 1.2 Address Elements

[5-13-04] All mail not bearing a simplified address under A020 must bear a delivery address that contains at least the following elements in this order from the top line:




a. Intended recipientâ**s name or other identification.




b. Private mailbox designator (â**PMBâ** or alternative â**#â**) and number if the mailpiece is addressed to a commercial mail receiving agency (CMRA) address.




c. Street and number. (Include the apartment number, or use the post office box number, or general delivery, or rural route or highway contract route designation and box number, as applicable.)




d. City and state (or state abbreviation). The city is any acceptable mailing name for the 5-digit ZIP Code serving the intended recipient as shown in Publication 65, National Five-Digit ZIP Code and Post Office Directory, and the USPS City State Product.




e. ZIP Code (5-digit or ZIP + 4) where required:




(1) ZIP Codes are required on Express Mail, Presorted and automation rate First-Class Mail, Periodicals mail, Standard Mail, Package Services mail (except single-piece rate Parcel Post), all mail sent to military addresses within the United States and to APO and FPO addresses, all official mail (penalty mail), all business reply mail, and all merchandise return service mail.




(2) Unless required above, ZIP Codes may be omitted from single-piece rate First-Class Mail (including Priority Mail), single-piece rate Parcel Post, and pieces bearing a simplified address.

Just gotta read in between the lines, no doubt

I had to include the whole post to remind us all what it said
and to say that in learning how to read (as an adult) and relearning what
words mean, it is fascinating to me just how bare and revealed it all is now!

I thank God and you all and everyone else who had a hand in my re-education!

[idknow]

Originally Posted by [:A'hul:Maur:]©

Greetings Everyone! Can someone elaborate a little more on the differentiation of these two Terms, and how to properly apply it to usage? Thanks!

In my opinion, the best place to get settled info on various ascpects of mail is at

http://www.Eccelsiaa.org/

and search. There, Randy Lee has written about mail.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for Randy Lee, John Joseph, and John William.

In talking with them, their position is that general delivery is statutory, thus one walking in the higher law should avoid it.

My take on this, and I haven't discussed it with them but I am sure we would disagree "agreeably", is this:

going into a grocery store doesn't make me a citizen, any more than going into a post-office does.

My whole issue with mail is the resident issue.

clearly, DMM makes provision for transients to receive general delivery. The only restrictions on general delivery are for customers, not transients.

The main mission of membership in the Universal Postal Union is the free transit and delivery of mail.

My only reason to not go "full bore" and just use general post-Office, is that I use priority, Express, when needed, and Registered mail.

Another thing I do is to put any ZIP code on brackets or a box. The reason I do this, and not just leave it off, is that many times, someone in the many stops of a piece of mail, will write in the ZIP, and that puts me back to square one.

So, to keep them from writing it in, as my ZIP, I bracket it. (GPO manual)

The post office may have a ZIP code, I may go there to get mail, but that, to my knowledge, does not make me a resident.

In fact, I have a postmarked, and signed affidavit, stating that I am a transient, so, until the post-office changes their mind, they agree with me.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by HenryBowman

I have nothing but the utmost respect for Randy Lee, John Joseph, and John William.

In talking with them, their position is that general delivery is statutory, thus one walking in the higher law should avoid it.

My take on this, and I haven't discussed it with them but I am sure we would disagree "agreeably", is this:

going into a grocery store doesn't make me a citizen, any more than going into a post-office does.

My whole issue with mail is the resident issue.

clearly, DMM makes provision for transients to receive general delivery. The only restrictions on general delivery are for customers, not transients.

The main mission of membership in the Universal Postal Union is the free transit and delivery of mail.

My only reason to not go "full bore" and just use general post-Office, is that I use priority, Express, when needed, and Registered mail.

Another thing I do is to put any ZIP code on brackets or a box. The reason I do this, and not just leave it off, is that many times, someone in the many stops of a piece of mail, will write in the ZIP, and that puts me back to square one.

So, to keep them from writing it in, as my ZIP, I bracket it. (GPO manual)

The post office may have a ZIP code, I may go there to get mail, but that, to my knowledge, does not make me a resident.

In fact, I have a postmarked, and signed affidavit, stating that I am a transient, so, until the post-office changes their mind, they agree with me.

Henry!

From my limited understanding of this subject (still learning/assimilating, it's not all futile, heh)
I too can agree that *as* the sovereign dealing with worldly matters, the mere act of purchase cannot
change our state from walking in the kingdom to walking in the world.

Wow, we have to remember, tht we stand on scripture. all things proceed from there, that is our foundation.
I just realised how easy it is to be enticed off that foundation! Step lively folks!

as it is written, "money answers all things" and it is no sin to commit commerce to accomplish our commission
given by our heavenly father, that is, to publish his Great Offer to all the world. that takes money;
or FRNs, as appropriate.

In Luke 19.13, it is written that we are to Occupy til I [return]" where the word occupy connotes engage in
commerce.

is that a correct understanding?

Originally Posted by idknow

Henry!

From my limited understanding of this subject (still learning/assimilating, it's not all futile, heh)
I too can agree that *as* the sovereign dealing with worldly matters, the mere act of purchase cannot
change our state from walking in the kingdom to walking in the world.

Wow, we have to remember, tht we stand on scripture. all things proceed from there, that is our foundation.
I just realised how easy it is to be enticed off that foundation! Step lively folks!

as it is written, "money answers all things" and it is no sin to commit commerce to accomplish our commission
given by our heavenly father, that is, to publish his Great Offer to all the world. that takes money;
or FRNs, as appropriate.

In Luke 19.13, it is written that we are to Occupy til I [return]" where the word occupy connotes engage in
commerce.

is that a correct understanding?

I wouldn't choose "commerce" as the intended definition of "occupy."

You may if you so desire or believe, but "occupy" is a warfare term.

and that is how I take it. (pun intended)

id est: Ephesians 4:27 and James 4:7 and Galatians 2:4-6

P.S. I don't fully have a grasp of "commerce", but buying and selling, I have no problem with.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by HenryBowman

I wouldn't choose "commerce" as the intended definition of "occupy."

You may if you so desire or believe, but "occupy" is a warfare term.

and that is how I take it. (pun intended)

id est: Ephesians 4:27 and James 4:7 and Galatians 2:4-6

P.S. I don't fully have a grasp of "commerce", but buying and selling, I have no problem with.

please, do provide better understanding then.

Originally Posted by idknow

please, do provide better understanding then.

understanding of ...?

[idknow]

Originally Posted by HenryBowman

understanding of ...?

referring to Luke 19.13 meaning of occupy

[2501]

a postmaster notified his higher up postmaster after being noticed by me and the message was: if any zip codes are ever attached to my information it ceases to be my information and should not be delivered.

Even just the other day the new guy was giving me a hard time about my information and then declared as the line built up behind me that he was just trying to make shure so that I will get all of my mail and I assured him that was all I was doing aswell.

Also, I have used registered mail for items and when I put in my info for the return receipt request (which I rarely use) I use the same general post info as I would for any other situation. My information doesn't change because I use a service.

when and by what was general delivery created?

When and by what were zip codes created?

I have had zip codes attached to mail by the postal worker and I object immediately with cause. They have no right to adulterate my information.
I also have gotten mailings that I requested and then had extra incorrect info added (by unknown person(s)) and I send it back: Return To Sender: Not Properly Addressed
Since I insist that all mail is properly addressed to me, I have found the general post to be the best (reads: least prejudicial) venue/ location to recieve mail at. The fact that general post predates the U.S. may be why I feel that way.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by 2501

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Since I insist that all mail is properly addressed to me, I have found the general post to be the best(reads:

least prejudicial) venue/ location to recieve mail at.

The fact that general post predates the U.S. may be why I feel that way.

I very much like the bolded phrase above! simple and straight to the point!

least pre-judicial!

yea!