01-25-2006, 02:16 AM
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wait, not a contract
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Originally Posted by mikah2k
If it were me, I would
refuse for cause
All "tickets" are contracts, but they never give you valuable consideration.
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Use
refuse for cause paper work
Enjoy!
P.S.
I have refused about six "tickets" (two travel related, one city ordinance related, one parking related, one resisting arrest, one failure to comply), in a.d. 2005.
The nice feature is that it is simple to do for yourself. You just need some guts and ink and paper and stamps and envelope. |
wait, citations are ``OFFERS TO CONTRACT'' they arent the actual contract.
The difference is significant.
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01-25-2006, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by handofdespair
LOL... 1300 miles for a ticket.. lol.. that is a hoot... how many states are between you and them... call them and tell them you arent going to show up...
its a ballsy move but its funny cuz they would have to expidite you across each state with a total cost of $25,000.00 each state... they wouldnt waste this much money on you for a $100 dollar ticket..
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Nope....the judge would issue a default judgment against you and in most states, the clerks would send the abstract of conviction to your state's DMV.
Points would be assessed against that license and should the fine not be paid,that license would be suspended and should you get pulled over in your home state, the copper would arrest you for driving with a suspended license. No warrant necessary. Actually, in many states, its SOP for a cop to confiscate the licenses of out of state drivers until the fines are paid, hell, Georgia cops take VISA and Mastercard! LOL |
01-25-2006, 05:16 AM
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The Outta Commissiona
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Plus, al DL stuff is tied into the D.C. database for those pesky citizens
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01-25-2006, 05:36 AM
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You could file an order for change of venue to your local county...
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01-25-2006, 05:45 PM
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Shoonra,
R4C has been a very effective tool at least for myself, while i wouldnt use the language in the one presented on this site, it is well written if you are a citizen of the US. as only US citizens can use USC and other federal statutes. (to my knowledge)
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
Traffic tickets -- more officially called "traffic citations" -- are not contracts except to the effect that by signing it you guarantee your appearance in traffic court on the date provided. The consideration for this is that you are allowed to go on your way (sometimes without driving your vehicle) rather than being taken to the police station then and there.
"Refusal for cause" - a UCC action used (rarely) for financial transactions - are inappropriate responses to traffic citations and other court papers. Don't be too sure that this stunt won't backfire when the drivers license comes up for renewal.
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01-26-2006, 12:36 PM
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Practice Makes Perfect
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Last edited by mikah2k : 12-10-2006 at 07:33 AM.
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02-04-2006, 08:23 AM
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Unplugged
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Originally Posted by handofdespair
LOL... 1300 miles for a ticket.. lol.. that is a hoot... how many states are between you and them... call them and tell them you arent going to show up...
its a ballsy move but its funny cuz they would have to expidite you across each state with a total cost of $25,000.00 each state... they wouldnt waste this much money on you for a $100 dollar ticket..
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from where I live it's about 12 states MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, DE, VA, NC, SC, GA, AL, LA Unless there's a direct route, in which case it's still a bit much. I just feel that justice is completely denied to me due to the distance, but I doubt the local extortionists care. The best suggestion so far is the RFC unless someone can explain the change of venue option, which will be tough since I won't be back in my home state until after the date on the contract.
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02-04-2006, 11:11 AM
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I would not encourage ignoring a ticket for a moving violation, even if you were a tourist. The states now share ticket information with each other, and with insurance companies, and it is possible that you will find it difficult or impossible to get a license renewal in your homestate until you have cleared up the ticket you got in another state (the more tickets you accumulate and ignore the more likely this will happen), and/or your auto insurance rates will jump considerably.
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02-04-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
I would not encourage ignoring a ticket for a moving violation, even if you were a tourist. The states now share ticket information with each other, and with insurance companies, and it is possible that you will find it difficult or impossible to get a license renewal in your homestate until you have cleared up the ticket you got in another state (the more tickets you accumulate and ignore the more likely this will happen), and/or your auto insurance rates will jump considerably.
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Yep!! Absolutely correcto!
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