Traffic Citation

[charlesa6]

Yep!!! You never no!

[Judge Roy Bean]

Originally Posted by Satori

I thought I linked you to the relevant material, but that might have been another thread. So I'll put it here for you. The following was found on ecclesia.org.

Right. And since no such case probably exists but the author of the document goes to great pains to make it appear as if it does, one has to view it as something designed to score some kind of authoritative point.

Now, if someone cares to post the actual case cite so the ACTUAL court records could be viewed, then we'd be able to see what took place. But then again, seeing what actually took place may not serve the purposes of the author.

[Satori]

Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean

Right. And since no such case probably exists but the author of the document goes to great pains to make it appear as if it does, one has to view it as something designed to score some kind of authoritative point.

For those unfamiliar with ecclesia.org, it is a Christian fellowship community dedicated to living in accordance with Christian ways in today's society. If one has to impune their motives in publishing their apparant research regarding, and encounters with, the law then one is evidently bound by an agreement with which I am not aware.

Now, if someone cares to post the actual case cite so the ACTUAL court records could be viewed, then we'd be able to see what took place. But then again, seeing what actually took place may not serve the purposes of the author.

There is sufficient information made available on the sanitized transcript, despite the private citizen's desire to keep his private information off of the internet, by which to locate the record if you feel the need. The location, the date, a partial case number, the name of the presiding judge, and the partial name of the "defendant" are all disclosed. As it appears you would like to view the record for yourself, you are certainly able to. Speaking for myself, I am satisfied with its veracity and authenticity.


- Satori

[Akira]

All,

I use a modified / updated version of Randy Lee's script when I go to court, and it works just fine. In court, the judge always looks for a weakness, and in doing so, exposes himself a little more. As a result, I learn a little more, and tweak the dialog, or my docs, to compensate, for the next go-round. See my first win in the OAS Win thread.

Please note where the judge has the DA take me to his office and threaten me if I teach anyone how to do what I did to win.

Theory is not enough. Stick your neck out, experiment, poke 'em with a stick, and find out what works ! That's how I learned, and it was quicker, and way cheaper than law school !

You can have all the guns in the world, but if God wants you gone, you're gone !

Walk with the Al Mighty and fear not !

Deut 7:17-26 (a must read)


For HIS Glory,
Akira

[Satori]

Terrific research, Akira. I advise those reading to check out Akira's OAS Win discussion; there's a lot of relevant research accumulated there.

Akira, if you're still tweaking your documents, I have some notes here which might assist. I was watching a video made by one of the Montana Freemen, and jotted into Notepad a few of the more interesting points he made:

"And the judge said how do you plead? And I said <inaudible, sounds like "plea embarred"> court of non judicae. And he said well I'm going to enter a plea of not guilty for you. And I said I object and take exception. You are not my attorney."

"He was yellin' out, he says, `Is LeRoy Schweitzer in the courtroom?' And I say, `Are you testifying or are you prosecuting?' See the thing is, in view of, under a written affidavit, the Executive Officer can't move the court. Remember? Chapter 38 of the Magna Carta? Bailif on his own baresay? He can't start the thing! The accuser has to start it! While no accuser, I won [or possibly `I want'] the Habeas!"

[Satori]

Terrific research, Akira. I advise those reading to check out Akira's OAS Win discussion; there's a lot of relevant research accumulated there.

Akira, if you're still tweaking your documents, I have some notes here which might assist. I was watching a video made by one of the Montana Freemen, and jotted into Notepad a few of the more interesting points he made:

"And the judge said how do you plead? And I said <inaudible, sounds like "plea embarred"> court of non judicae. And he said well I'm going to enter a plea of not guilty for you. And I said I object and take exception. You are not my attorney."

"He was yellin' out, he says, `Is LeRoy Schweitzer in the courtroom?' And I say, `Are you testifying or are you prosecuting?' See the thing is, in view of, under a written affidavit, the Executive Officer can't move the court. Remember? Chapter 38 of the Magna Carta? Bailif on his own baresay? He can't start the thing! The accuser has to start it! While no accuser, I won [or possibly `I want'] the Habeas!"

I'm also interested in the nature of your Mandamus. I've been reading up on them, and given the following I'd like to get the way you're using them successfully.

This writ was introduced io prevent disorders from a failure of justice; therefore it ought to be used upon all occasions where the law has established no specific remedy, and where in justice and good government there ought to be one. Mandamus will not lie where the law has given another specific remedy.

Thanky.

- Satori