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Old 05-22-2006, 09:48 AM
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Arizona travel

I found this on a CD, its old, but thought it may help.

Common Law Right to Travel:

Arizona Senator's Letter to State Officials

On December 10, 1985, Arizona State Senator Wayne Stump addressed a letter
to the State's Director of Public Safety, Ralph Milstead, that is sure to
shake up the bureaucracy. The same letter was addressed to the sheriff of
every county, every police chief, and the head of every law enforcement
agency having to do with traffic regulation in the State of Arizona.

Let the letter speak for itself:

"It has come to my attention that numerous individuals in our state
have rescinded all of their contracts with the United States federal
government, the State of Arizona, and each of its political subdivisions,
establishing themselves as freemen under the organic national Constitution
of the Republic of the United States of America. Consequently, they may be
driving without auto registration, driver's license, or any other evidence
of contract.

"Because many law enforcement personnel may be unaware of the
contractual nature of auto registration and driver's licenses, it is
conceivable that this situation may lead to confrontation between these
individuals and law enforcement personnel.

"I urge you to inform yourself and your personnel about this matter
as soon as possible. If you would like to be briefed by someone
knowledgeable on this subject, please contact me.

"In the meantime, inasmuch as this procedure is entirely appropriate
when properly carried out, I would like to be personally notified of every
such instance of confrontation in order that the persons involved and the
public officials involved may be apprised of the correct procedure and the
appropriateness of their actions on the part of each concerned.

"My office phone is (602) 255-5261 and I am requesting to be notified
of the names and incidents along with addresses and phone numbers of
participants of any such confrontations arising from the exercise of a
person's freeman status in order to evaluate the outcome of properly
rescinded contracts.

Sincerely,
Wayne Stump
State Senator
State Capitol - Senate Wing
Phoenix, Arizona 85007

[Reprinted from `Freedom League Newsletter', January 1986]
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:55 PM
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Wow! That is great news! A government official confirming that such status is possible
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Old 05-26-2006, 07:36 PM
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Wayne Stump is no longer in the Arizona Senate, was once on the board of an anti-immigrant outfit called English First, was once on the board of the National Rifle Assn, and has been involved with the just about any militia-type nonsense coming down the pike. Although he's being quiet for the last few years, he is still alive in Glendale, Az.

He never went to law school. His opinions on complex legal subjects - especially those in which he, personally, had no part in legislating - have no weight.
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Old 05-27-2006, 10:31 AM
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Wow! That is great news! A government official confirming that such status is possible
Only in ol' Stumpy's and McLamb's dreams.
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Old 05-27-2006, 12:28 PM
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Travel Papers

These Travel papers were sent to us from the Virginia Republic. If you wish
to use them, simply change "Virginia" to the name of the correct Republic at
the bottom.

Warning Actual Notice

Do not violate the Prerogative rights of a Sovereign Citizen by detaining him.
Please assist in his passage without delay. Any violation of this Sovereign's
rights, At Law, will be remedied by Personal Suit At Law for trespass on
rights. Sovereign Citizens are not subject to the codes (D.M.V., Etc.)
"In common usage, terms "person" (resident, individual, etc.) does not include
the sovereign, and statutes employing it will ordinarily not be construed to
do so." U.S. v. United Mine Workers, 330 U.S. 258.

1. "The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport
his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common
right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and
possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right
in so doing to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day; and under
the existing modes of travel includes the right to drive a horse-drawn
carriage or wagon thereon, or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual
and ordinary purposes of life and business. It is not a mere privilege..."
Thompson v. Smith 154 S.E. 579.

2. "The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a [state] Citizen. He is entitled to
carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no
duty to the state or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his door to an
investigation, so far as it may intend to incriminate him. He owes no such duty to the state,
since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights
are such as existed by the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the state. ...He
owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights." Hale v.
Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 (1905)

3. "The right to travel is part of the Liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without
due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles 357 U.S. 116, 125.

4. The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere
privilege but a common and fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot
rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 337 Ill. 200, 169 Ne 22, 66 ALR
JUR (1rst) Highways, Sec. 163.

5. "...drivers of automobiles into two classes, one professional chauffeurs, and requiring them
to obtain a license, and pay an annual license fee of $2.00, the other embracing all others, who
are not required to secure a license or pay license fee, is sound classification, and not
arbitrary, so as to constitute special legislation." Ex Parte Stork, 167 Cal.294. The Supreme
Court of California Feb. 24, 1914 - footnote.

This statement has been submitted upon demand of a "driver's license," registration or proof of
insurance, and therefore is part of the official record of any ensuing action and must be
introduced as evidence in said action. It will be noted that willful suppression of evidence is a
felony. any cause for action will result in action At Law.
Asservation

I declare, under the penalty of perjury of the Laws of God, that the above Notice is true and
correct to the best of my knowledge and belief and that a true and correct copy was served on
the officer identified hereon.
 

Seal __________________________________ ________________________


Virginia Republic Citizen at Law Date


X __________________________________ ________________________


Officer received copy Badge No.
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Old 05-28-2006, 04:41 PM
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That he is no longer in the Senate 20 years later is significant of what? Does that information have some special significance in 2006?
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Old 05-28-2006, 05:44 PM
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Well, for a start, legal information that's 20 years old should not be relied on too heavily, and when it comes from a non-lawyer whose retirement consists of associating with some fringe groups, should be trusted even less.
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Old 05-28-2006, 09:01 PM
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Travel Papers

These Travel papers were sent to us from the Virginia Republic. If you wish
to use them, simply change "Virginia" to the name of the correct Republic at
the bottom.

Warning Actual Notice

Do not violate the Prerogative rights of a Sovereign Citizen by detaining him.
Please assist in his passage without delay. Any violation of this Sovereign's
rights, At Law, will be remedied by Personal Suit At Law for trespass on
rights. Sovereign Citizens are not subject to the codes (D.M.V., Etc.)
"In common usage, terms "person" (resident, individual, etc.) does not include
the sovereign, and statutes employing it will ordinarily not be construed to
do so." U.S. v. United Mine Workers, 330 U.S. 258.

1. "The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport
his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business is a common
right which he has under his right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and
possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right
in so doing to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day; and under
the existing modes of travel includes the right to drive a horse-drawn
carriage or wagon thereon, or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual
and ordinary purposes of life and business. It is not a mere privilege..."
Thompson v. Smith 154 S.E. 579.

2. "The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a [state] Citizen. He is entitled to
carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no
duty to the state or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his door to an
investigation, so far as it may intend to incriminate him. He owes no such duty to the state,
since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights
are such as existed by the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the state. ...He
owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights." Hale v.
Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 (1905)

3. "The right to travel is part of the Liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without
due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles 357 U.S. 116, 125.

4. The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere
privilege but a common and fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot
rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 337 Ill. 200, 169 Ne 22, 66 ALR
JUR (1rst) Highways, Sec. 163.

5. "...drivers of automobiles into two classes, one professional chauffeurs, and requiring them
to obtain a license, and pay an annual license fee of $2.00, the other embracing all others, who
are not required to secure a license or pay license fee, is sound classification, and not
arbitrary, so as to constitute special legislation." Ex Parte Stork, 167 Cal.294. The Supreme
Court of California Feb. 24, 1914 - footnote.

This statement has been submitted upon demand of a "driver's license," registration or proof of
insurance, and therefore is part of the official record of any ensuing action and must be
introduced as evidence in said action. It will be noted that willful suppression of evidence is a
felony. any cause for action will result in action At Law.
Asservation

I declare, under the penalty of perjury of the Laws of God, that the above Notice is true and
correct to the best of my knowledge and belief and that a true and correct copy was served on
the officer identified hereon.
*

Seal __________________________________ ________________________


Virginia Republic Citizen at Law Date


X __________________________________ ________________________


Officer received copy Badge No.

I had the opportunity today to review this document with a Virginia State Trooper.

His exact words were: "If someone uses that document, They should pack a toothbrush with it."

He added that using that as identification or a substitute for a drivers license is a guaranteed trip to jail until the person can produce acceptable identification or their fingerprints get cleared through the national network.

State police don't like to play stupid games with someone who refuses to produce verifiable identification. The person may be a fugitive, a felon with outstanding warrants, or a terrorist.

However, if you don't mind spending a few nights in jail, then go for it.
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Old 05-28-2006, 11:58 PM
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I had the opportunity today to review this document with a Virginia State Trooper.

His exact words were: "If someone uses that document, They should pack a toothbrush with it."

He added that using that as identification or a substitute for a drivers license is a guaranteed trip to jail until the person can produce acceptable identification or their fingerprints get cleared through the national network.

State police don't like to play stupid games with someone who refuses to produce verifiable identification. The person may be a fugitive, a felon with outstanding warrants, or a terrorist.

However, if you don't mind spending a few nights in jail, then go for it.

I gotta shake my head at a lawyer who obtains "legal advice" from a cop! Nonethelss, the response is typical from one of the man's mindless minions who will resort to any tactic.....intimidation, arrest, torture and murder to get what he wants. Police are the enemy of the people in most cases. I can use lethal force against any thug or terrorist who may try to harm me or my family. The cops only show up AFTER the fact. They are in exisitence to enforce administratives codes of the state and dont give a damn about anything else.

My suggestion is to learn what the id laws require and then act accordingly. This country is little different from the Nazi regime.... Your papers please! and AndyK loves to have it so! Guess what....if your papers arent in order you get to have a trial, after which you will be taken out and shot...by friendly officers who are "just doing their job and following orders" like the good little defendants at Nuernberg.
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:22 AM
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Well, I'm not going to waste my time to get you all of the case law. You don't have to produce a "I.D." unless a crime has been comitted.

I didn't write this travel paper, have my own, but I don't see where it says that you WOULDN'T show a state I.D., it just states that he is being served with a paper that explains your rights. Let him ingore it, you have a cause of action right there! If he proceeds, detains you without consent, jails you, you can sue his ass for that as well.

Agiain, I didn't write it, but am tempted to go to Virginia and find this lil "trooper" you talked too, and see if he's blowing sunshine up your butt, or if he would just hand it back and send you on your way.(a real cop would do just that back, send you on your way down the road)
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