Drivers license?

[scooterdog]

Yea, something like that. Wasn't paying attention.

[Akira]

Originally Posted by jerrypitts

Akira: Your advice to others with regard to the alleged 'success stories' is well taken. On the otherhand, I would still like to see verification from any court of law with regard to those alleged wins, wherein the court has stipulated that the court dismissed for this reason or that reason. Though many in this forum allege to have won an issue in court, they fail to present any formal paperwork(court records) to verify their claims. At most, they allege that this theory or that theory worked and that others should follow suit and spend money(frn's) to purchase the procedure utilized and alleged to have been the reason for the 'success'. My only question to those is this; "why should I spend one thin dime on something that is thus far unproven, unverified, and lacking in documentation that would make the expenditure a competent decision?"

You shouldn't..

The only way I can effectively do that is to provide you with court transcripts... got $ for this? neither do I...

Do you suppose that all the folks who used the common law default successfully in the success stories section are lying, so ticket slayer can make money? The docs are in the downloads section for free...

Look Jerry...

I have shared PM's with you.. I KNOW from whence you speak... You got burned ... I got burned... most everyone here got burned !!!! some by the courts.. others by PAYtriots.. (nudge nudge wink wink..)

I'm sorry you were taken advantage of... but that doesn't make us all liars... or all patriots, PAYtriots...

Am I going to publish personal info here? NO ! I have already been threatened with violence by the court, if I share my knowledge & experience.

Will I send my docs privately or call you? perhaps.. ask me...

I have a doc right in front of me, entitled "NO COMPLAINT", where the PA withdrew the complaint he filed against me... I don't have a scanner... send me your addy and I'll mail you a sanitized copy, but it doesn't disclose WHY he withdrew.. so it proves nothing..

There is testimony in the success stories section.. nralien asked me for help, and 17 days later, his case was dismissed... not good enough? Then I'm sorry, bro... I can't help you..

For HIS Glory,
Akira

Originally Posted by Akira

You shouldn't..

The only way I can effectively do that is to provide you with court transcripts... got $ for this? neither do I...

Do you suppose that all the folks who used the common law default successfully in the success stories section are lying, so ticket slayer can make money? The docs are in the downloads section for free...

I have not run across any of the 'ticket slayer' docs within the downloads section.. Are they in a special heading? I will look again.

Originally Posted by Akira

Look Jerry...

I have shared PM's with you.. I KNOW from whence you speak... You got burned ... I got burned... most everyone here got burned !!!! some by the courts.. others by PAYtriots.. (nudge nudge wink wink..)

I'm sorry you were taken advantage of... but that doesn't make us all liars... or all patriots, PAYtriots...

I don't believe that I have stated that everyone involved are liars. I am merely stating that without PROOF of effectiveness, I am not willing to engage in any further process that is otherwise unproven and unverified. Only one person on this forum(formerly) lost anything as a result of being involved in my scenario. He paid postage to forward documentation to me. I simply have no desire to loose anything else, therefore, I do not hesitate to use caution in dealing with folk.

Originally Posted by Akira

Am I going to publish personal info here? NO ! I have already been threatened with violence by the court, if I share my knowledge & experience.

I do not blame you or anyone else for not wanting to publish personal information on this or any other forum for the whole world to have access to. This is especially true if, as you have indicated, that there is some personal threat involved if you did do so. Redaction of information is something that the government often does to protect the identity of someone that has given them information.

Originally Posted by Akira

Will I send my docs privately or call you? perhaps.. ask me...

I may take you up on that offer.

Originally Posted by Akira

I have a doc right in front of me, entitled "NO COMPLAINT", where the PA withdrew the complaint he filed against me... I don't have a scanner... send me your addy and I'll mail you a sanitized copy, but it doesn't disclose WHY he withdrew.. so it proves nothing..

The heading of the document would authenticate that a process had been involved, especially if it named the court. Most others simply make the claim and then don't even offer to supplement their claim with ANY form of authentication. Recently (today) Weishaupt did post a link to a website that does in fact provide documentation to the claims that are being provided on that site.. 'tax honesty.com'. I commend him on that action.

Originally Posted by Akira

There is testimony in the success stories section.. nralien asked me for help, and 17 days later, his case was dismissed... not good enough? Then I'm sorry, bro... I can't help you..

This is an example of true Nobility. Where one will venture to help and assist others. My commendations to you and my congratulations to nralien on his 'success', though I am equally certain that there are no documentation to verify his claim.

Please understand, that my losses are trivial when compared to the dis-trust that my experiences have generated. Not only toward the governing officials, but to those that would also want to capitalize upon the unfortunate situations that are often found when men and women come to these forums looking for assistance.


Jerry

Jerry

[Akira]

Jerry,

Originally Posted by jerrypitts

I have not run across any of the 'ticket slayer' docs within the downloads section.. Are they in a special heading? I will look again.

See 'court documents', last one down, "affidavit of truth.." the writ of praecipe is missing... please also see nraliens "psych ward" thread, where I posted this info, as well as the missing writ of praecipe, and more, earlier..

Originally Posted by jerrypitts

Please understand, that my losses are trivial when compared to the dis-trust that my experiences have generated.

I think most here would concur.. I know I do..


For HIS Glory,
Akira

[scooterdog]

I think , god bless me for that, alot of people think I bought a book copied some sh@t, and thats it. If you look threw my posts, I have taken two long years to do my own "Travel Papers".

Never once I have I said they would "work", all I have said is come hell or high water, I'm ready to argue against my owns states Supremes! I don't sell, and NO, YOU can't get these. I Have had some try it out, worked everytime.

My question is--- Why is no government questioning me??? Just people here. As I have stated, NEVER EVER WILL THEY DISMISS ON MY PAPERS!(Some other bs reason will be made) That is not the point.

I sat here doing some other BS for a guy,(docs I don't want to talk about) telling him I have reviewed over 30 strait hours of MT Sup. Ct. Rulings, and I am apalled at there ignorance. I don't have the answeres, but will be damned if I will "let them "GIVE" me " the answeres. .

AGAIN, I REFUSE THIS BULL ****!! Montana dreams that they have control of who ownes the roads is senseless to say the least. Once the Feds gave money(thats why we have no sales tax) the government decided to Fu@@ us six ways until sunday!!

Agian, I feel our (Montana's)government has fell short. Sure, the Montana Freemen hurt us. I do not condem the,, but damn boys, have a little knowledge of law!!

Montana has said repeatedly, it is a right to drive(look it up) and they can govern this. I disagree again. It is a right to TRAVEL. ON THE PUBLIC(taxes paid) roads.

[mnchicago]

To the original Q, do you really need a DL?

Unless you have Noticed the Secretary of State that you
are rescinding and revoking your DL, it would seem prudent
to always show one.

Yes, the right to travel is constitutional, and one does not
have to pay a fee for that right. However, if you have signed
for a license, then you have voluntarily submitted
to the "rules of the road."

Using Ticketslayer docs is a different story.


I did spend the money to buy the Ticketslayer info, just
in case:
1) I may need it in the future.
2) To learn something
3) Financially support someone with a proven method.

Just my POV.


Akira:

If you have anything that you volunteer to send, via pm,
I am certainly interested in learning whatever I can.

[Codee]

What is a Foriegn jurisdiction in relation to the state? I believe that I am a forein jurisdiction in respect to the state. I create the state to serve me so my jurisdiction is broader and differnt than the states jurisdiction. That said, if it can be worked up more so it can withstand attack then use this. NOtice how it revolves around "Forein jurisdiction" and not "forein state or nation"

CVC 310. A "driver's license" is a valid license to drive the type of motor vehicle or combination of vehicles for which a person is licensed under this code or by a foreign jurisdiction.

Valid in california just means "signed." I suspended license is still valid and the state can prosecute a parent of a minor for restitusion because the they signed up for it with the license and the suspention did not invlidate the whole contract which was valid at "signing"

"Gee officer, I contracted with my best friend to get a license to drive on his private property which is not in your jurisdiction, which makes it foreign to your own. As such my license is valid. Thank you."

At least here we are relying on easily recognized law. Lets keep looking for these.

[citizensoldier]

Originally Posted by Codee

I believe that I am a forein jurisdiction in respect to the state.

Are you? Can you demonstrate your assertion in court?

I create the state to serve me so my jurisdiction is broader and differnt than the states jurisdiction.

You did not create any of the states - they were created from their respective Enabling Acts.

CVC 310. A "driver's license" is a valid license to drive the type of motor vehicle or combination of vehicles for which a person is licensed under this code or by a foreign jurisdiction.

Valid in california just means "signed." I suspended license is still valid and the state can prosecute a parent of a minor for restitusion because the they signed up for it with the license and the suspention did not invlidate the whole contract which was valid at "signing"

"Gee officer, I contracted with my best friend to get a license to drive on his private property which is not in your jurisdiction, which makes it foreign to your own. As such my license is valid. Thank you."

At least here we are relying on easily recognized law. Lets keep looking for these.

I do not see anything you posted as being based in the law. Until people are willing to go back to the source - the law, there will continue to be many Americans falling prey to Corp US.

Are you sovereign - yes. Foundational law recognizes it as being self-evident. However, being sovereign doesn't mean one of the states or States cannot obtain jurisdiction over you. A sovereign cannot ignore the nature of their relations to others - some relations create duties or obligations enforceable in law.

[Codee]

To say that nothing I wrote is bsed in law seems to be leaving out my first sentance which is copied from the state website and is a valid California Code. Secondly I ask you "what is "forein jurisdiction?" And who passed the enabling acts? And what did they enable. Most states were recognized by their omnibus acts I thought.

Here is the limit of the state of California's Jurisdiction in the Cal. Gov. Code:

C.G.C. 110. "The sovereignty and jurisdiction of this State extends to all places within its boundaries as established by the Constitution. The extent of such jurisdiction over places that have been or may be ceded to, purchased, or condemned by the United States is qualified by the terms of the cession or the laws under which the purchase or condemnation is made."

I dont see anything in there about them having jurisdiction over anything other than places. And here is what I am reading which leads me to beleive although I might not have created the whole state of things I do create the agencies that serve. It pretty clear to me that I created the court.

C.G.C. 11120. Public policy; legislative finding and declaration; citation of article
"It is the public policy of this state that public agencies exist to aid in the conduct of the people's business and the proceedings of public agencies be conducted openly so that the public may remain informed.
In enacting this article the Legislature finds and declares that it is the intent of the law that actions of state agencies be taken openly and that their deliberation be conducted openly.
The people of this state do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies which serve them. The people, in delegating authority, do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. The people insist on remaining informed so that they may retain control over the instruments they have created.
This article shall be known and may be cited as the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act."
West's Ann.Cal.Gov. Code (2004), section 11120.

[scooterdog]

WOW! Maybe thats why I have my papers for MYSELF! What works for me/you may not work for you/me! All we can do is try.