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Old 08-02-2006, 03:06 PM
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Emission Block

Just a question????.
I recently purchased & decided to remove my used automobile from the public DMV, I surrendered the title and I gave notice to the state DMV and the state DT that the Vehicle was being transfered to a private Auto and I would no longer be driving but traveling I also put the local Police, Sherrifs dept, state troopers on notice with a copy of my plate and right to road travel card and claimed it on a UCC3. The DMV replied stating that the Vehicle had an emission block on it hadn't been settled. I was asked to contact the original owner and have him satisfy this block by paying the $90. Is this anything to do with me?
I havn't yet answered as I didn't want to accept what could be an offer that really could have nothing to do with me as a Private Sovereign.
Do I need a public department to regulate the condition of my Private Auto?

Also heres something of Interest for sovereign travellers. Ah forget it Im under privileged (cant upload)
Instead I'll ask why do you guys use so many abbreviations its cute impressive but confusing, could you use just a little less, for those awakening.
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Old 08-02-2006, 05:59 PM
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Ya know. That does not sound fun.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:34 AM
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Just make sure that if you are pulled over after dark, that they don't charge you with Nocturnal Emission.

Could be a sticky situation
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:19 PM
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Just make sure that if you are pulled over after dark, that they don't charge you with Nocturnal Emission.

Could be a sticky situation

Or worse, Seriously though it seems that this is a rare situation. I guess I'll have to continue researching to find out if I have any obligation to the DMV whatsoever, my logic says I dont but it seems there's a thin line between suijuris and subject.

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Old 08-03-2006, 11:11 PM
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In all honesty, using anything involving the UCC in regards to travel issues is not very smart.

See, the whole point is that one needs lic/reg when involved in commerce as "for hire"

Why strengthen their presumption that you are in commerce?
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:06 AM
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In all honesty, using anything involving the UCC in regards to travel issues is not very smart.

See, the whole point is that one needs lic/reg when involved in commerce as "for hire"

Why strengthen their presumption that you are in commerce?
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In all honesty, using anything involving the UCC in regards to travel issues is not very smart.

See, the whole point is that one needs lic/reg when involved in commerce as "for hire"

Why strengthen their presumption that you are in commerce?

I never thought of it that way.
But I think by making my property discoverable by the UCC3 it will (along with surrender of title) take away their false assumption that the Car is theirs because once an MSO (Manufacturers Statement of Origin) is recieved and an application for a State Title they have been given ownership and we then operate in commerce in fiduciary capacity for the DMV corp not as a Private person for personal pleasure.
Therefore it really is the art of legalese that is standing in the way. If I do the same physical action of what one would call driving yet I am really Travelling I am not engaging in commerce as driving (as defined by blacks law 3rd) is an activity involving passengers and fee's as apposed to guests in an auto as apposed to a vehicle again defined as a vessel for commerce, like a bus. This deception demands every single word to be broken down.

So is it really commerce?
I appreciate the advice.

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Old 08-04-2006, 12:18 PM
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Fishing expedition.

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I never thought of it that way.
But I think by making my property discoverable by the UCC3 it will (along with surrender of title) take away their false assumption that the Car is theirs because once an MSO (Manufacturers Statement of Origin) is recieved and an application for a State Title they have been given ownership and we then operate in commerce in fiduciary capacity for the DMV corp not as a Private person for personal pleasure.
Therefore it really is the art of legalese that is standing in the way. If I do the same physical action of what one would call driving yet I am really Travelling I am not engaging in commerce as driving (as defined by blacks law 3rd) is an activity involving passengers and fee's as apposed to guests in an auto as apposed to a vehicle again defined as a vessel for commerce, like a bus. This deception demands every single word to be broken down.

So is it really commerce?
I appreciate the advice.

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"One employed in conducting or operating a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle, with horses, mules, or other animals, or a bicycle, tricycle, or motor car, though not a street railroad car. See Davis v. Petrinovich, 112 Ala. 654, 21 So. 344, 36 L.R.A. 615; Isaacs v. Railroad Co., 7 Am. Rep. 418, 47 N.Y. 122."
Weis is correct in that if you use their system (UCC)you are agreeing that you are bound to be under them.and part of the system.I thought you were trying to get off of the government flypaper! Not glued to it even deeper.

This is like recending a driver license.
By doing that it is an agreement that you had one (License)and therefore binds you to it.There is no way that they can prove that you ever had a license. Without you telling them that you did.

Understand what Involuntary servitude shall not exhist.Means.(13th amendment of their constitution)

Did you receive a bill of sale from whomever you purchased the car from?
If so then that is your property not the states.............

The right to life liberty and the ownership of property was not given by the 5th amendment, only acknowledged.

When were you in any way told or shown that when you registered your vehicle (giving them the MSO)you agreed to be giving ownership to the state?
I'll answer this for you , Never.
how many parts of an contract must you be cognizent of for it to be a binding contract?
How many signatures does it take to make a binding contract?
Where is the consideration from the state?
On and on.
Do you get the picture?
Lets be real here and quit listening to Paytri-idiot giberish.

Hesed;
you are on the right track, the state is just fishing and trying to get you to enter into another contract with them.
If you have noticed them.your done
That was a courtesy on your part.
Did you give them notice and demand that they rebut you within a certain amount of time and did they default?
you need to decide if you are a sovereign or a second class citizen.
And if you are a sovereign then act like it.

Sovereign=King= We the people.

Citizen =Second class=Voluntary servitude=slave, chattle.Shut up and do as you are told.Pay the public debt without question.
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:06 PM
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RE: On everything Craig posted - no doubt !
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:44 PM
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RE: On everything Craig posted - no doubt !
Thanks Weis. as mine was an afirmative on you're post.
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