Automobile Trust

I am looking for info on how to create an automobile trust and of course the forms and procedures, etc.& I am needing to hit the road soon and have acquired an auto w/o plates. Or is there any other ways to "move" under the present circumstances?

[suijuris]

Freykat,

We must all pick our battles, and the right to travel issue is one I have not yet chosen to fight.

However, I know nothing of automobile trusts... so cannot give you any help in that area.

I do recommend that you read this: http://www.suijuris.net/main/suijuri...30923211647672

Remember, the right to freely travel in your automobile without any permits, licenenses, etc, is a constitutionally proctected right. In the event that I choose to fight the right to travel battle, I will do so by studying and proving to myself first that I can defend my position. And believe me, I will be called upon to do so should I choose to fight.

Just ask yourself before hand, if it is worth the chance of being arrested and having your automobile stolen? Because those are the risks you will run. I am not trying to persuade you what course of action to take, I just want you to be aware of the stakes and that you are ready and willing to see it through to the end. Is it worth that much to you? If so, I commend you and wish you the best!

Regards,
Sui Juris

[Ice]

If you really want to set yourself up so that you can freely travel without plates, license, etc.; purchase an old clunker for next to nothing.& Send in the title with "Salvaged" or "Junked" written across it (it takes the vin out of their system).& Then DRIVE ALL OVER YOUR AREA!!& Now, after getting pulled over and ticketed and all that -- fight the battle.& Once you have WON -- it will get around and you will be considered "hands off" by the officials.& You may want to drive the "old clunker" for awhile&to make sure that you are now considered "untouchable" and that they will leave you alone.& And if, by chance, your old clunker is "stolen" during the process -- get a second old clunker to drive around while you sue for "specific performance" in hopes of regaining the clunker IN THE SAME CONDITION IT WAS IN WHEN THEY TOOK IT FROM YOU.


But here is the thing to remember, a license is required for "commercial" purposes... if anyone ever offers you $$ for a lift to the airport, store, or what have you -- you better have a license.


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Well, guess the consensus would be that I gotta expect to be stopped and hasseled regardless of what I do, huh.& Thanks for the replies ya'll.& BTW, is anyone familiar with the Embassy Of Heaven system?& In my mind, the most feasable way to go as far as my situation , is a Trust, just haven't been able to find enough info to effect such.&

[suijuris]

Trust's can serve a purpose, but what exactly are you trying to achieve through all this?

Sui Juris, the purpose of all this is that I now have a auto without tags, and am in great need to move to another location. Needless to say, traversing down a road is riskey at best.& I, needless to say, do not care to give up my natural born rights to anything satanic, etc..& Also, A state took my D.L. unlawfully sometime back and I will not give them several hundred FRNs in order to kowtow to those that are beneath me!& Therefore, my privacy is important to me.& Hope this gives you a little more insight in this.& And thanks again.

[Ice]

When you say "am in great need to move to another location" are you saying that you need to move the car?... or that you are moving?


If you just want to move the car... have a friend tow it... put it on a trailer and haul it.


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I like the use of a trust for a car simply because it separates the asset (you and your property) from a liability (you in an accident-risk of loss). Grant the car into trust and have your Certificate of Title re-titled in the trust's name.

This is a different issue than whether or not one registers the car thus pledging it to the state. Not only do you have a right to travel, you are not required to have your right converted into a privilege and a fee extracted for it.

If one is going to travel in one's property then I suggest one bone up on said rights, travel with a bond and know how to do a habeas corpus.

Hey Ot, sounds like you may have some info that would be helpful.& When I said Move, I meant "moving to a different state".& My "deal" here is over and I am looking at moving half way accross the u.s..& Ot, can you give me a little more insight into a trust?

freykat,

There are many books available that deal with trusts and their application.

The most basic element of a trust is that it is a contract and it can be either public or private. It has three ingredients that are always present; grantors, trustees, and beneficiaries. There are also protectors and managers but these are not necessary components to establish form and substance.

A good read on the subject is "Trusts" by George T. Bogert. Try to secure the Professors Edition.