Traffic Ticket

[Dillon Hunt]

Does a police officer commit perjury when he gives you a traffic ticket after an auto accident in which he is not a witness to? When he signs and serves his complaint on you isn’t he alleging you committed a crime under oath? I mean if he didn’t see the accident why is he summoning you to traffic court in the first place?

Any comments appreciated.

Dillon

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

Does a police officer commit perjury when he gives you a traffic ticket after an auto accident in which he is not a witness to? When he signs and serves his complaint on you isn’t he alleging you committed a crime under oath? I mean if he didn’t see the accident why is he summoning you to traffic court in the first place?

Any comments appreciated.

Dillon

Did or didn't the both parties involved in accident present at the time the officer written the citation?
Did or didn't the officer cross examines the both parties about the accident before the officer written the citation?
Did or didn't find you liable after cross examines both parties involved in the accident?
Did or didn't you agree to the officer finding before the officer written the citation?

[Dillon Hunt]

Did or didn't the both parties involved in accident present at the time the officer written the citation?

Yes

Did or didn't the officer cross examines the both parties about the accident before the officer written the citation?

No, the one who may have caused the accident Pleaded the 5TH

Did or didn't find you liable after cross examines both parties involved in the accident?

No, Did not admit to anything.

Did or didn't you agree to the officer finding before the officer written the citation?

No, did not agree with his findings



I hope that this explains the situation better.

Dillon

[Big Al]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

Did or didn't the both parties involved in accident present at the time the officer written the citation?

Yes

Did or didn't the officer cross examines the both parties about the accident before the officer written the citation?

No, the one who may have caused the accident Pleaded the 5TH

Did or didn't find you liable after cross examines both parties involved in the accident?

No, Did not admit to anything.

Did or didn't you agree to the officer finding before the officer written the citation?

No, did not agree with his findings



I hope that this explains the situation better.

Dillon

No fraud, fraud means knowledge. Police most often lack knowledge about the laws they enforce because the people that teach them what the law is don't have a clue either. Remember the definition of the word fraud is when two or more persons conspire to deprive another. Gee come to think of it, isn't that what the court is about to do?

[idknow]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

Did or didn't the both parties involved in accident present at the time the officer written the citation?

Yes

Did or didn't the officer cross examines the both parties about the accident before the officer written the citation?

No, the one who may have caused the accident Pleaded the 5TH

Did or didn't find you liable after cross examines both parties involved in the accident?

No, Did not admit to anything.

Did or didn't you agree to the officer finding before the officer written the citation?

No, did not agree with his findings



I hope that this explains the situation better.

Dillon

The business man in blue is there to make sure that his master gets his cut of any and all transactions.

IOW, everyone of you is so well trained by the govt and insurance companies to report all incidents like good little slaves. Lack of knowledge *IS* our destruction.

Govt gets jurisdiction by being invited to get involved in private matters.

Stop giving away your word and stop allowing others to take it from you.

Tacit procuration is evil.

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

Did or didn't the both parties involved in accident present at the time the officer written the citation?

Yes

Did or didn't the officer cross examines the both parties about the accident before the officer written the citation?

No, the one who may have caused the accident Pleaded the 5TH

Did or didn't find you liable after cross examines both parties involved in the accident?

No, Did not admit to anything.

Did or didn't you agree to the officer finding before the officer written the citation?

No, did not agree with his findings



I hope that this explains the situation better.

Dillon

If only one "Yes" answer in the questionaires the police officer is not incredible witness to the accident.

It's doesn't matter if the other party take 5th, but what does matter is that the other party injured and that's the reasons why the officer given you a citation. If nobody injured the officer will not give any citation to anyone of the parties involved in accident except for the officer to make a report for insurance purpose only by law.

Case Senario (1) You can request for trial and put the officer to the stand to answer all the questionaires, if the officer failed to answer "Yes" to all the questions, the judge will find the officer lack of credibility's and dismiss the citation, but the judge will find you liable for the other party damages because of the citation.

Case Senario (2)Request for trial, tell the judge that you have insurance at the time of the accident, and you already informed the insurance about it, and they are looking into it right now. Never argue with the blackrobe it will make it tough for you and you might lose your chance of winning the case.

Case Senario (3) Request for trial, if the other party involved in accident didn't present, by the default, automatically the case will be dismiss



editing..........

[Dillon Hunt]

Next time I will imform officer of his fraud so he can't claim he did not know. That should do it, and then put officer on the stand and see what he says. Also record it or have witness at time of the accident of him being imformed.

Dillon

[Codee]

Originally Posted by Dillon Hunt

Does a police officer commit perjury when he gives you a traffic ticket after an auto accident in which he is not a witness to? When he signs and serves his complaint on you isn’t he alleging you committed a crime under oath? I mean if he didn’t see the accident why is he summoning you to traffic court in the first place?

Any comments appreciated.

Dillon

No the officer does not. If I look at the ticket carefully I notice that there is no claim you violated a statute. All it says is "Violations: 12341" or whatever. On top of the fact that there is no statement of fact on the ticket, the ticket is not signed under penalty of perjury, thus there is no "sworn" statement.
The officer made an administrative decision and pulled me over for a private statute. On top of that I have 3 days to say "no thank you." If I do so then the DMV must give me an administrative hearing. If the DMV refuses the hearing they cannot proceed. In the admin hearing I am going to contest that non-judicial proceedure is only for public officers and corporations and that to use it against me as a private individual constitutes it as a bill of attainder. There can be no jurisdiction without a formal complaint. The formal complaint must be brought judicially or seperation of powers implemented through bills of attainder clause will apply and the tribunal will lose SMJ.

Good Luck

[Dillon Hunt]

Traffic Ticket Actually reads:

This summons served personally on the defendant on __________ (date).

The issuing-charging law enforcement officer states under the penalties of perjury and falsification that he/she has read the above complaint and that it is true.


______(signed)_________
Issuing-charging law enforcement officer


Sure looks like he signed it under penalty of perjury.

[Codee]

Sure does. I wish Cal. worked that way.

Did he sign the ticket or just put some upper-case on it.