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[Notorial dissent]

Originally Posted by charlesa6

Wrong! Try again. Maybe some UCC Guru can chime in and back me up.

Please feel free to actually read the UCC and then show me where it says you can create a security interest in real property using the UCC. You won't be able to, but please do try. Conversely, you can quote the part of it where is specifically says it DOES NOT apply to real estate or real estate transactions.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

Conversely, you can quote the part of it where is specifically says it DOES NOT apply to real estate or real estate transactions.

But you can't/won't?

Did not the claim originate, herein, from you?

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

A mortgage creates a security interest in real property.

The UCC deals only with intangible property, again, the UCC cannot be used to secure an interest in real property and is therefore worthless in this application.

How, precisely is a "mortgage" "real estate?"

(If the above was supposed to precisely answer this, how, precisely, does it?)

How, precisely, is a "security interest in real property" real estate?

What precisely is "real property?

Does "real property" differ from "real estate?"

If so, how, precisely?

Is a "mortgage" "property?"

What are the specific mechanics by which a "mortgage" "creates a security interest in real property?"

Is a "mortgage" property?

If so, tangible or intangible?

What, precisely, is tangible "property?"

How is a "security interest" created by a mortgage documented?

Is the mortgage itself documentation of the "security interest?"

If not, is the so created "security interest" "property?"

If "security interest" is "property" is it tangible or intangible?

How is documentation of "mortgage" recorded?

Can you/will you cite and quote the UCC section you referred to?

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

Please feel free to actually read the UCC and then show me where it says you can create a security interest in real property using the UCC. You won't be able to, but please do try. Conversely, you can quote the part of it where is specifically says it DOES NOT apply to real estate or real estate transactions.

Check with county recorder office, they will tell you. I have one for the past 5years now not even the IRS dare to touch it or any entity period. If I get time I will give you a little lecture on it, and the illustration too.

To be continued.

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

Please feel free to actually read the UCC and then show me where it says you can create a security interest in real property using the UCC. You won't be able to, but please do try. Conversely, you can quote the part of it where is specifically says it DOES NOT apply to real estate or real estate transactions.

I don't have to read it is in my head. UCC is my second language and I learn it from the best. Tell me something I don't know. I will be glad to listen.

[georgealexander]

I believe what most people are refering to is a

Trust Indenture.

'Mortgage' is word everyone I have met - way out here in the West - uses when discussing Trust Indentures.

The use of mortgages went 'out of style' in the early 1950s.

So much for death pledges.

Just a quick opinion off the top of my head.

George Alexander

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

I have a really novel idea, why don't you try actually reading the UCC, and then pay particular attention to the section of it that tells you it SPECIFICALLY DOESN'T APPLY TO REAL ESTATE.

Hey I have a really novel idea, why don't you stop lying, deceiving and threatening people attempting to learn for themselves?

[theghost]

Notorial dissent, you are either a disinformation agent, or you just haven't read much of the UCC yourself, don't know which, don't really care. Revised article 9 is all about secured transactions, and absolutely apllies to real estate. i filed a UCC-1 against a judge a few years ago, and he freaked out. he then hired a law firm to put his house in trust, (fraudulent conveyance) three days AFTER I filed it.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by robhalford88

Hey I have a really novel idea, why don't you stop lying, deceiving and threatening people attempting to learn for themselves?

Because if too many people "learn" too much, he/she will have to find actual productive work, and produce actual product?

[Notorial dissent]

Originally Posted by charlesa6

I don't have to read it is in my head. UCC is my second language and I learn it from the best. Tell me something I don't know. I will be glad to listen.

As I said, please feel free to quote the section that proves your point.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

As I said, please feel free to quote the section that proves your point.

As I said, please feel free to quote the section that proves your point.