Current method of UCC filing

[iamfreeru2]

Originally Posted by KITCHIE

I have seen those UCC's that list everything you have. I would NEVER put that in the public record...however I would reference my security agreement.

Kitchie

I agree with you for the most part, however, there are certain public documents that I would list, such as DL, Passport, Marriage License, etc.

[Jerseee]

Originally Posted by lettertoss

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My question relates to filing UCC liens. I have just joined in and it appears some discussion has focussed on this subject.
The question is can or should an entity or LLC file a UCC lien on the parent corporation to protect the assets in a lawsuit?
Can anyone provide information on this subject and whether a trust, methods of asset protection or another solution is recommended to research.

Thank you

Sounds like you know where to start. Just seems that you want the go ahead to start. Okay, start with a trust.

Welcome to the forum!

[Vincenzo]

Originally Posted by wallyb

Newbie here.



I am trying to understand what this thread is about. Seems to be focused on mortgage redemption, but I am not sure. Perhaps it covers other things related to separating the sovreign from the strawman.



If I want to start understanding this, where should I begin researching? At this point, this thread is overwhelming.

wallyb go back to squirrels post on this page and start clicking on the links.
very good stuff...the truth will set you free...and it might piss u off in the process as well.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by lettertoss

Can anyone provide information on this subject and whether a trust, methods of asset protection or another solution is recommended to research.

Before you EVER spend another dime, invest in 1 or 2 IRREVOCABLE trusts. Do some research, go to the Law library.

Private Message(PM) me. When you fight, you want to be on your feet, not your knees or your back(Unless you know Jiu Jitsu!)

[Vincenzo]

Originally Posted by logos

Oh really? You're sure they don't know what this stuff is? I've had many discussions with one attorney, and believe you me, they DO know what this stuff is. Probably not every single one of them--just as CTC3 observes, the Matrix has many of it's own agents bamboozled--but a lot more than you might think, especially judges as they have a greater "need to know". One might justifiably ask: if this "redemption" stuff is real, why don't attornies use it? why don't they and judges acknowledge it? why doesn't it work?

I'll try to answer even though some of the following has already been stated on this board: "they" don't use/acknowledge it not because it's bogus, but because they operate in the court realm. They have little power outside of there. They must have everyone thinking courts and the usual law "stuff" is where it's at, that disputes MUST be settled in court, that one doesn't have power outside of court, and, of course, that everything must be done through an attorney and no one can think about law other than them. Do you really think they will let you know otherwise if they can help it? Do you think they will admit to something that can empower you and hurt their racket? They must not let the cat out of the bag for the sake of the game, their careers, and sometimes their own personal hides.

The judge knows what his court is: an admiralty/maritime/law merchant/non-common law court. It's all commerce in there, debtors and creditors. Are you sure he didn't know what you were talking about? Maybe he didn't know, but what are the chances of that? Perhaps he gave you a weird look because he was surprised you were aware enough to ask such questions. Also, part of his job is to test you. Why should he go along with what you're doing if there's either no incentive to do so, or no repercussion for not doing so? I'm not saying what you did was right, but there may be numerous reasons why it didn't work. People seem to expect agents to say: "gee whiz you're smart! damn, you've got us. you win. the game is up. darn, now i'll have to find an honest job".


Redemption is a work-in-progess, so many of us don't have the right info, or have insufficient info, and it doesn't help that the "experts" horde the knowledge. It isn't fair to call it a fraud because some people have been nailed while using it, or because some people are trying to sell the info. I'm not happy with the whole "patriot-for-profit" thing. I believe one should share information freely out of love for one's brother. How many people have been sold bad or incomplete court/"law" info over the years? It doesn't make the whole thing bogus. How many people have been nailed in the courts over the years? Alot more than with UCC/redemption. Those people were saying then that the whole court thing was fraudulent and that they did all the right things. Upon review now, we can see where they made mistakes. We had to study and refine our knowledge to where we are now. Much of what we know today wouldn't have been taken seriously ten years ago, and many would have leveled against that stuff the charges they level at redemption. Legitimate questions and concerns have rightfully been posed about redemption/UCC stuff, but we should investigate further to answer those questions and not be so quick to slam it all as being crap.


So, are we really sure it doesn't work? Or could it be we're not yet working it right?

Hi Logos, I like the expression paytriots for those privateers. They make you pay for your freedom, If you can make it work. And Boast that they did it, it was their work that freed you. Gainsayers,(paid twice) is a just word. Just another thought going from one neuron to another... If we would share this even just amongst ourselves we would all clearly understand more today than yesterday, than we could explain it to others of interest and this movement would grow faster, If someone wants to know, answer his question (use it or lose it). He might really get it and in a time maybe share is way to freedom with us. But, if he was charged a fee he will act in like kind. What you get freely give freely. The Universe is ever expanding, it abhors a void. This Universal law leaves you where it finds you. Your either a player or a spectator... the players in any sport get in for free and are paid well, the spectators sit on the side lines and pay to watch the game. Vincenzo

[weishaupt1776]

[b]We have gone off topic slightly, but this exchange has got me thinking.

Marc Stevens' viewpoint is that the "constitution", "common law", etc. . . are just political words and phrases used to conceal the true violent nature of what's really going on - - the taking of people's Life Liberty Property(LLP) against their consent.

The Redemption outlook is that the "constitution", "common law", etc. . . are just political words and phrases used to conceal the true COMMERCIAL nature of what's going on