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Old 03-25-2008, 02:30 AM
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Establishing the lien on strawman.

By comparison, I think it is easier to complete the UCC-1 than it is
to establish a lien on the strawman.

The UCC-1 is not a lien. It is only NOTICE of a lien. Everybody exclaims that they did their UCC-1, and they make it sound like they are done; but, they are not. I am suspicious of people making it sound like they just filled out the form, and filed it.

The lien is the hard challenge! On the UCC-1, just make reference to the lien, and get a date stamp. Simple.

Problem with the lien on strawman: When someone publicly files public notice of the
lien on their own assets, said lien is nothing less than creditor
notice on where to find assets to attach, if there is a flaw in the lien.

I have a sneaky suspicion that people who have legitimate liens are afraid of sharing it, because it can be detrimental when put into the wrong hands of people who don't know how to use it or defend it in court.

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Old 03-25-2008, 07:51 AM
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Some useful UCC knowledge.

Some of the following information is from a reliable "un-named" author. Use at your own risk. Always do your own due dilagace in verifying information that has been presented here. None of it is hidden but all in plain view.. but little changes and variances from state to state alter the procedure slightly in some aspects.

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A security agreement must exist to file a UCC-1 Financing Statement, but does this mean it must be in writing and attached to the UCC-1? Possibly, but what if it is a verbal agreement? Since your straw-man corporation cannot speak how can it write or sign its name? You can create one and attach it, but you probably don’t need it. In fact, one can still do all of the administrative procedures without filing a UCC-1, because you are the Secured Party and Creditor whether you file or not. Filing the UCC-1 is actually more for your benefit than for anyone else because it makes this esoteric, intangible subject more real to you and gives you confidence, and that gain alone is worth every bit of the effort expended.

The “government” or specifically the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE keeps an account for your strawman corporation from the time you were born until the time you die. That is all the straw-man really is – an account, an accounting of the commercial transactions of the credit that you as the creditor gives to UNITED STATES.

The IRS calls the summary of entries made to this account your Individual Master File (IMF). This file is an account of what the straw-man has “done” so that they can put a value on the criminal “charges” that they are claiming, such as a rum runner in Puerto Rico, an arms dealer in Iran, or a drug dealer in Malaysia. That is how they “charge your account” and that is why you have never been “charged” with these crimes – the debtor, the straw-man, the corporation has. These “charges” represent millions of dollars worth of U.S. Treasury Bonds to the foreign corporation we fondly call the UNITED STATES.

As you might guess, depending on the crimes and the assigned values, this balance is a continuing deficit to the debtor and at first glance it would be an overwhelming feeling to know that if you think you are the debtor, you could owe millions, if not hundreds of millions. But, you must ask yourself this question, “who is the creditor to this debtor”? Is it the UNITED STATES, the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK, or INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND? I think you know the answer. They are “pretending” to be the creditors, but did they give the substance or did you?

Then why are they getting the interest (taxes) for the credit units that WE have supplied to the corporations? Shouldn’t the corporations be paying the interest to us? How did this get turned upside down where the head is the tail and the tail is now the head? Turn to Deuteronomy 28 and read it, but specifically 43, 44 & 45;

The stranger that is within you shall get up above you very high; and you shall come down very low. He shall lend to you and you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail. Moreover all these curses shall come upon you, and shall pursue you, and overtake you, till you be destroyed; because you hearkened not unto the voice of the Lord your God, to keep his commandments and his statues which he commanded you:

Now that you can visualize the countless number of “charges” that have been entered on your straw-man account by the IRS, what can you do about it? You can balance your account by ACCEPTANCE FOR VALUE.

The main reason why you must do this action is to keep this account at a zero balance so that you can discharge all of your debt that you CAN see.

1. You will have to get a copy of your birth certificate and accept that for value. This is the document that the state issued for the purpose of creating an artificial person in your upper case name with an account so that the State could keep an accounting record of all the debt that has been assigned to that “person.”

2. While you are waiting for your copy of your birth certificate, you will have to make an invoice like they would have “if” they were able to give one to you. Since they will never do this, you will make one up yourself based on the birth certificate as this is the actual document evidencing that the straw-man account really exists. This is the bill, the charge, the evidence of debt. Do not put an amount in the space provided, because you do not know how much they have entered into your account. Leave this blank and let them fill this amount in.

3. Now that you have the bill, the evidenced the debt, you need to discharge it. You will do this by means of a set-off, a cancellation of mutual debt, an exchange, a BILL OF EXCHANGE. Replace the generic data with your information and again DO NOT ENTER AND AMOUNT. Then sign the document.

4. Next compose the cover letter that you will send to Paul H O’Neill, not the US Secretary of Treasury. The reason is that you, as a sovran in the private venue, cannot see or recognize a fiction whether it be a corporation or an office. You can only see or deal with the real man or woman. This is a “private” contract between you the creditor and Paul H O’Neill, your agent for the bankruptcy to cancel the debt.

5. Go to your local IRS and get a 1040ES (Estimated Tax) Form and fill it out, but DO NOT sign it or fill in the AMOUNT. Again you do not know how much it is so let them fill it out. When they figure out how much the total debt is they will then pay themselves by using this form.

6. When you get your birth certificate, you will need to make a transparency for it. This consists of printing out the page that says Non-Negotiable CHARGEBACK on it. Take it down to a Mailboxes Etc. and have them make RED transparency of it. Then situate the CHARGEBACK transparency on the birth certificate and have them make a color copy of it. Fill in the blanks appropriately.

7. While you are at the copy place, take your UCC-1 and make a copy of it also. Copy only the Financing Statement NOT the entire Security Agreement and attachments.

8. Now that you have the whole package, make a copy of the entire package which should include;

a. Cover letter to Paul H O’Neill
b. Invoice
c. BILL OF EXCHANGE
d. Copy of birth certificate with CHARGEBACK stamp
e. Copy of your UCC-1 Financing statement.
f. 1040ES


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Remember in the Bible who offers? Sinners “offer” offerings to God. That is why you never, never make an offer, because you are admitting that you are the sinner – the debtor, one who is obligated. So when an agent of a fictitious entity (your creation) gives you an offer, they are acknowledging that you are their creator, their “god” and that they are honoring you and returning their appreciation and energy back to you that you have created them.

When you decide you are going to jump into the realm of discharging public debt, it is vital that you know and understand the Rules of the Game. One very important thing to remember when doing this often dangerous excursion is that the bankers want you to know that “only they can use your credit – not you!” Of course this is ridiculous and absurd when you understand that you are the Creditor and every product that you see exists solely on the fact that you furnished the credit to make it from the very beginning.
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