UCC believe it or not

[Steel]

I've read comments from the non believers I would like to state my belief.
Men are bought and sold via UCC
UCC is, has been,and will be,

HAMMURABI CODE yesterday = UCC today

Ecclesiastes 1:9
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

There are many false prophets abusing UCC, some claim to help you file and actually "file you"
others try to use it for power or greed and are worse than when they began.

However with all that being said, not believing in it does not make it any less real.

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes,Slipknot, Eyeless"
[sic] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0aIJ9ns-Tc

[palani]

I have heard it said about voodoo that, if you truly believe it exists, a pin stuck in a doll that represents you might inflict pain or death.

If you don't believe in voodoo the action of sticking a pin in a doll merely appears foolish. Now sticking a pin in a lawyer that represents you might result in a .40 Glock being pulled.

Originally Posted by LawDog

a meek-looking, bespectacled lawyer like me whips out a .40 Glock when some jerk threatens me

Voodoo, like UCC, requires belief for there to be any power. Pins and Glocks are real enough but attorneys are head cases that represent the insane.

[Lawdog]

No, son...the insane people are the ones who argue that your name all in capital letters is your fictional strawman and not the real you, and that if a courtroom has an American flag with gold fringe on it, that means it's secretly an admiralty court, blah blah blah.

[palani]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

No, son...the insane people are the ones who argue that your name all in capital letters is your fictional strawman and not the real you ...

The true test for "the real you" is to stick in a pin and see if a fountain of blood results. If no blood is forthcoming you might possibly be dealing with an artificial person or an attorney who thinks he represents one.

A paper is a vessel. The cargo is the words thereon. If the "all capital name" you speak of appears on a vessel then it is merely cargo. It is not the name of the vessel or the buyer or seller of the cargo or the captain or any of the crew. It is dried ink and represents no one.

If you think otherwise please seek competent help from a competent medical examiner.

Originally Posted by Lawdog

... and that if a courtroom has an American flag with gold fringe on it, that means it's secretly an admiralty court, blah blah blah.

Absolutely incorrect. If an American flag with a gold fringe is displayed that means that it is openly an admiralty court. How could it be secret if the flag is displayed so prominently? The insane part is an attempt to bring this fact to the courts' attention. To discuss this in court is similar to advising the court that there is oxygen contained in every breath. They already know there is oxgyen present. It is moronic to inform them of something that they are very familiar with. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by bringing up a fact of which everyone is aware.

[Shoonra]

Number of court cases saying that putting someone's name in block letters (= all caps) works some sort of legal alchemy: zero.

Number of court cases saying that a fringe on the courtroom flag works some sort of legal alchemy: zero.

[I.S.L.A.M]

I'm really not understanding why people are trying to constantly find "proof on paper" that the UCC "works". I'm new to the Redemption Process, but I completely understand that this all works by faith & knowledge. If documents where laying around on how a person used the UCC to obtain so-n-so, the game would be up for everyone saying that there isnt a remedy for your life. This process has to be constantly denied for the game to continue. But what if it does work, isnt being free worth anything?

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

Number of court cases saying that putting someone's name in block letters (= all caps) works some sort of legal alchemy: zero.

Number of court cases saying that a fringe on the courtroom flag works some sort of legal alchemy: zero.

Percentage of



100%

[Lawdog]

The argument that a flag with gold fringe in a courtroom means it's an admiralty court, or a court martial (i.e., military court), has been shot down in flames every time some nut argued it.

In the case of McCann v. Greenway (952 F. Supp. 647, W.D. Mo., 1997), McCann managed to combine the two crank theories by arguing that the gold fringed American flag was an "admiralty flag of war." The judge's comment when he dismissed that delusional argument bears repeating:

Jurisdiction is a matter of law, statute, and constitution, not a child's game wherein one's power is magnified or diminished by the display of some magic talisman.

So if you think that whether a flag in a courtroom has gold fringe affects what type of court it is, you're giving into the same sort of childish, superstitious nonsense that makes primitive people believe in voodoo dolls.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

The argument that a flag with gold fringe in a courtroom means it's an admiralty court, or a court martial (i.e., military court), has been shot down in flames every time some nut argued it.

In the case of McCann v. Greenway (952 F. Supp. 647, W.D. Mo., 1997), McCann managed to combine the two crank theories by arguing that the gold fringed American flag was an "admiralty flag of war." The judge's comment when he dismissed that delusional argument bears repeating:



So if you think that whether a flag in a courtroom has gold fringe affects what type of court it is, you're giving into the same sort of childish, superstitious nonsense that makes primitive people believe in voodoo dolls.

Correct, it is not particularly the "flag," it is the:

[palani]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

The judge's comment when he dismissed that delusional argument bears repeating:

Jurisdiction is a matter of law, statute, and constitution,...

None of these have anything to do with 'diction' or 'speaking' which is the basic root of 'juris-diction'.

Law - ignorance of a foreign law is ignorance of a fact and is not criminal
Statute - binding on those who take oaths and accept salaries which would be your basic civil servant
Constitution - composed by constitutors who seek to pass their debts on to others. In the case of the federal constitution the states are the participants rather than the individual inhabitants of the states. As it is binding on the states I might suggest you send any federal debt to them.

Smoke and mirrors, Hare. That and clueless judges.