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[logos]

iamfree & weishaupt:

I, too, have many unanswered questions from the seminar but I can't say I totally agree with your positions re not discussing those matters here. Some of the people here may help in getting those questions answered.

I don't know how you feel, but I don't believe I'm my brother's keeper. So what if some people will use this advanced data to their peril? They aren't children to be coddled. I blab to people all the time about this stuff (their eyes light up) but I then bring them back down to terra firma by warning them of the probable repercussions and reminding them there's more to this than throwing around documents like confetti, and that they should do some serious study before they attempt do so. With that warning I am no longer responsible for what occurs to them from the use/misuse of that information.

While I share your desire not see people needlessly hurt, I think the notion that this info should be withheld from grown adults because they may hurt themselves is not far removed from the Elite's practice of withholding the truth from us--all done for our own good, of course.....

[weishaupt1776]

Hey Logos, I believe your position is certainly a good angle & definitely another side of the coin.

imfree, vanton, seeker, and I know people who are in the slammer or they themself have gone through countless hours of litigation because of misapplication.

Jean himself was in Prison, and got himself out, no doubt, but the only reason is becaus he knew what he was doing.

The problem was at the seminar when he was all jacked up on those testosterone pills while interspersing his teachings with stuff about Planet X, his pitbull & a worldwide tidal wave and was therefore not too clear about a sound process.

He certainly had some information that was useful, but we could confuse alot of people who could wind up in prison if they misapply this stuff which we don't understand in the first place.

Ultimately(I'm sure they agree) we fear God and don't want to be held guilty in the prescence of the Almighty for leading people down the wrong path as this infomation is so hot button.

To tell you the truth, I've put that stuff on the backburner right now & am focusing on some clearer, more direcet approaches to freedom which still requires alot of riddle deciphering, but nowhere near as confusing

[iamfreeru2]

Originally Posted by logos

iamfree & weishaupt:

I, too, have many unanswered questions from the seminar but I can't say I totally agree with your positions re not discussing those matters here. Some of the people here may help in getting those questions answered.

I don't know how you feel, but I don't believe I'm my brother's keeper. So what if some people will use this advanced data to their peril? They aren't children to be coddled. I blab to people all the time about this stuff (their eyes light up) but I then bring them back down to terra firma by warning them of the probable repercussions and reminding them there's more to this than throwing around documents like confetti, and that they should do some serious study before they attempt do so. With that warning I am no longer responsible for what occurs to them from the use/misuse of that information.

While I share your desire not see people needlessly hurt, I think the notion that this info should be withheld from grown adults because they may hurt themselves is not far removed from the Elite's practice of withholding the truth from us--all done for our own good, of course.....

Your points are well taken, however, like Weis, I have put on the back burner most of what was at the seminar. I too am using things I have more a handle on, like the Shrout material that you have. I am putting that to good use now.

I will say that I like the IBoEs and I am now trying to find the book with all the bank routing numbers so that I might make good use of them.