
03-07-2005, 06:49 PM
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For iamfreeru2
Am I assuming correctly that my BOE drawn on my Personal UCC Contract Trust is not processed through the TreasuryDirect system?
Thanks for your help.
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03-08-2005, 06:16 AM
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Sweed,
The FBoEs are not sent based on a TDA. A treasury direct account is only for the bureau of public debt. It is my understanding at this point that the discharge documents are directed through the Analysis and Control Division of the IRS for processing. We are having a seminar here in Florida where we are looking to get a better handle on the processing of these bills. I will keep you informed. By the way is it you that emailed me regarding this yesterday?
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03-08-2005, 08:05 AM
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Yes, that was me that emailed you yesterday.
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03-08-2005, 08:45 AM
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Yes it was me that emailed you yesterday regarding this topic.
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03-23-2005, 10:31 AM
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Good seminar, yes?
So now that the seminar is over, did Jean Keating reveal anything that you can share here?
In his "Prison Treaty," pages 36 & 37, Jean eluded to the fact that a lot of people were directing the U.S. Treasury to use their prepaid, exempt from levy account number (SSN) instead of their designated Federal Reserve Bank (FRB - 1 of 12). Did he go into anymore of that?
From what I can gather, the letter and 8-digits on the back of the SSN card issued to you, relates to the Federal Reserve Bank (i.e., Federal Reserve Note - K: Dallas, D: Cleveland, etc.) and account number designated for your use on the private side.
Jean said on p. 37, "The whole problem and nothing else is that the public and national debt or deficit is not being redeemed through your exemption on the private side. This is the reason you have run away inflation and wars in the public realms.
The reason wars are fought is to kill or execute people to cancel the debt. You will find out that under Title 12 section 1811 and section 3104 [insurance of deposits] every demand deposit account including checking, savings and credit card accounts are insured under the FDIA [Federal Depository Insurance Act] through the FDIC [Federal Depository Insurance Corporation] Title 12 section 1811 (a).
When they execute the debtor to eliminate the debt, they also collect the insurance money; you are actually worth more dead [debt] than alive" (to them). "Why do you think the police are so quick to shoot people? This executes or eliminates both the debtor and the debt, in one swift action or execution."
I remember reading on another thread here, that after such and such date, only certain banks (mainly/only FRB's) have access to the back office treasury window. That would seem to corroborate with what Jean says above. His "Prison Treaty" paper is very revealing, but back to my question.
If what he says is true, how do we direct (order) them, FRB's ... same wording or slightly different? Did Jean or anyone else at the seminar go into that?
In the use of Bonds, is Jean a stickler for using SF24, 25 & 25a, and well as, SF 273, 274 & 275, or will other Bonds work as long as you have the order on how to negotiate it?
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03-23-2005, 12:43 PM
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I am not really ready to come back to the board yet, but felt it necessary to answer the above post.
We do not have enough answers to be discussing Jean's Treatise or the infomation from the seminar on this board. There are too many unanswered questions and we are all researching it. One of the things we are wanting to do and we will be persuing is having Dan Benham for a seminar. He is very expensive, however, and we may not be able to afford to have him here in Florida. Jean has gotten quite a bit of info from Dan.
In answer to your questions: "If what he says is true, how do we direct (order) them, FRB's ... same wording or slightly different? Did Jean or anyone else at the seminar go into that?"
This is the Million $$ question. It has been difficult to have the banks accept and submit the BoEs for processing. What we believe the banks are doing is keeping the BoEs and negotiating them and just telling us they are no good, when in fact they are good.
In the use of Bonds, is Jean a stickler for using SF24, 25 & 25a, and well as, SF 273, 274 & 275, or will other Bonds work as long as you have the order on how to negotiate it?"
When in the courts the courts love the bonds. On the other hand the banks like the BoEs. The problem is having the courts and bank recognize our bonds and BoEs via our private exemptions.
When we have a handle on things where we will not be helping others to get in trouble using an unproven processes we will be sharing more. Until then I will not be sharing any more on this board regarding the info from the sminar. It is not that I do not want to share because I do. It is that I do not have enough info to share. What I have, if I share, someone will take it and try to use it at their peril. This I do not want to happen. We had a good seminar, but it raised a lot of questions.
iamfreeru2
Last edited by iamfreeru2 : 03-23-2005 at 12:47 PM.
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03-23-2005, 06:24 PM
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Southeast Contingent Concurring
My man in the above thread is correctomundo. I attended the seminar myself, and while I was certainly directed into new territory, I wound up having more questions than answers. I am assuming that experience was also shared by 90% of the attendees that day.
So, the logic follows that we each need to independently answer those questions PRIVATELY before discaussing them collectively in a public forum.
I would keep anything about that treatise off board & discuss it in encrypted email/phone format.
Just my opinion
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03-23-2005, 06:43 PM
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Hey Weis,
If u or imfree get into trouble using an exemption for Bid or Performance bonds, just have him whip out that good ol' Letter Rogatory VJ gave him....outta give ya plausible honor and denialbility every time! 
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03-23-2005, 08:42 PM
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Yeah, the L/R and 50FRNS just won't cut the bail.
Hell, I don't even know if that'll get me cab fare back home after the stint @ the graybar
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03-24-2005, 07:22 AM
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to Pause, Meditate, and Ponder upon...
No problem, guys! We all need to seek His direction and guidance before moving into new enemy territory.
Being diligent to show yourself approved, says a lot for this forum. All is appreciated and respected.
As you seek His Wisdom and Knowledge, keep us informed as He speaks to you. Remember, He uses the dumbest of us to confound the wise.
Glory to YHWH!!!.
Last edited by Selah : 04-05-2005 at 11:15 AM.
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