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UCC in Australia
Along with a number of oters who have studied Cracking the Code, I have copyrighted my name under the UCC and done a financing statement through the UCC office in the stste of Washington.
As I am in Australia, I am trying to detirmine the role of the UCC in this country. Most have no idea of the UCC or the areas of influence or the legal position of the UCC code in Australia. Our own Trade Practices Act has lifted Artice 9 straight out of the UCC but most legal people are totally unaware of the UCC, either here or in the U.S.
I believe that our banks enforce their actions under UCC Law here in Australia.
I have taken an action against someone who has made unauthorised use of my common law copyrighted trade name/trade mark&after I&served a copyright notice on them.& I had a Notice of Written Communication-Consensual Contract served at their private address by a registered PI who is a process server. After a further 5 days and no response, I sent an invoice by registered mail. The respondent then went to the police and had me arrested and charged with Stalking. I had not personally contacted this person or taken any other action.
I spent 5 days in a police cell before being given bail. Now I have to defend myself on a criminal charge, which I am sure I will beat as they really do not have a case.
The point is, can anyone shine any further light on the UCC situation in Australia and indeed other parts of the world. I know that Australia is a party to an international treaty on UCC law that goes back to 1992. I have not got a copy of that treaty yet.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
StephenRD
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09-24-2003, 11:49 PM
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UCC in Australia
Along with a number of oters who have studied Cracking the Code, I have copyrighted my name under the UCC and done a financing statement through the UCC office in the stste of Washington.
As I am in Australia, I am trying to detirmine the role of the UCC in this country. Most have no idea of the UCC or the areas of influence or the legal position of the UCC code in Australia. Our own Trade Practices Act has lifted Artice 9 straight out of the UCC but most legal people are totally unaware of the UCC, either here or in the U.S.
I believe that our banks enforce their actions under UCC Law here in Australia.
I have taken an action against someone who has made unauthorised use of my common law copyrighted trade name/trade mark&after I&served a copyright notice on them.& I had a Notice of Written Communication-Consensual Contract served at their private address by a registered PI who is a process server. After a further 5 days and no response, I sent an invoice by registered mail. The respondent then went to the police and had me arrested and charged with Stalking. I had not personally contacted this person or taken any other action.
I spent 5 days in a police cell before being given bail. Now I have to defend myself on a criminal charge, which I am sure I will beat as they really do not have a case.
The point is, can anyone shine any further light on the UCC situation in Australia and indeed other parts of the world. I know that Australia is a party to an international treaty on UCC law that goes back to 1992. I have not got a copy of that treaty yet.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
StephenRD
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09-25-2003, 01:03 AM
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Re:UCC in Australia
<FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">Very interesting.&I do not have many insights to offer on the role of the UCC in Australia. I hope I am wrong, but from your isolated story, is appears that the authorities there may have heard about this movement and are trying to "nip it in the bud".
Do you know if there are others in Australia who are attempting this process? And is the treatment you received uncommon or overly unusual?
As to the UCC, I think I would attempt to find the methods used by the banks to perfect their security interests under Article 9 (your Trade Practices). It seems that this would eventually lead you back to to equivalent of our secretary of state, where you can properly file your UCC statement locally. Maybe you could locate some type of "bankers handbook", or a similar guide used by the bankers there.
I do remember seeing a website some time back, the gentleman who ran it was from Australia, or maybe New Zealand. He was fighting the banks there, and seemed very knowledgable on their practices. Wish I had the link now...
Am interested in seeing others input on this subject.</FONT>
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09-25-2003, 01:03 AM
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Re:UCC in Australia
<FONT face="courier new, courier, mono">Very interesting.&I do not have many insights to offer on the role of the UCC in Australia. I hope I am wrong, but from your isolated story, is appears that the authorities there may have heard about this movement and are trying to "nip it in the bud".
Do you know if there are others in Australia who are attempting this process? And is the treatment you received uncommon or overly unusual?
As to the UCC, I think I would attempt to find the methods used by the banks to perfect their security interests under Article 9 (your Trade Practices). It seems that this would eventually lead you back to to equivalent of our secretary of state, where you can properly file your UCC statement locally. Maybe you could locate some type of "bankers handbook", or a similar guide used by the bankers there.
I do remember seeing a website some time back, the gentleman who ran it was from Australia, or maybe New Zealand. He was fighting the banks there, and seemed very knowledgable on their practices. Wish I had the link now...
Am interested in seeing others input on this subject.</FONT>
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When a statute, code, or court holding changes tomorrow, does reality change? Does truth change? Does right and wrong change?
If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
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07-08-2005, 09:05 PM
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UCC in OTHER COUNTRY
HEY ALL!!! BEEN A WHILE BUT ITS GOOD TO SEE ALL THIS HARK WORK AND EFFORT STILL BEING PUT IN HERE AWESOME STUFF.
MY COUPLE OF CENTS:
IN NEW ZEALAND WE HAVE NO STATES. IT IS MY BELIEF THAT THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE IS A STATE(of England) OR THAT A CERTAIN ARM OF THE GOVERMENT IS THE STATE...(something shady like anyway) I NOTICED THAT OUR GOVENOR-GENERAL IS THE HEAD OF STATE IN MY COUNTRY.. WTF.(could that mean that the capital city is a state?)
WE HAVE NO STATE COURTS ONLY DISTRICT COURTS, AND THEY MAY ONLY BE CIVIL COURTS.
I KNOW THE UCC HAS TO DO WITH THE CROWN.
AND THE CROWN IS IN ENGLAND. NEW ZEALAND WAS A COUNTRY COLONIZED BY ENGLAND, THUS OUR LAWS ARE DERIVATIVES TO BRITISH LAW. IN MY COUNTRY IS SAYS THE CROWN THIS AND CROWN THAT.
WE HAVE NO-(KNOWN) UCC FILING OFFICES.
BUT THE UCC IS HERE. OBVIOUSLY.
IT MAY STILL BE KNOWN AS THE LAW MERCHANT HERE?
AS FOR FEDERAL GOVERMENT,WELL ALL THE FEDS IN MY COUNTRY ARE ALL CROWN AGENTS.AS I C IT.
THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT IS THE LAW AND THE NORMAL GOVERMENT WELL THERE THE SAME PEOPLE JUST WEARING DIFFRENT HATS LOL.
WAT TO DO!!!
IM THINKING OF SENDING MY PARTICULARS TO THE TREASURER AND GET HIM TO CITE THEM AND MAKE THEM ALL OFFCIAL LIKE AND HOPE HE SENDS THEM BACK LOL. THINGS LIKE THE 1-308 ASSERVATION AND SO FORTH.
I WONDER IF I JUST SENT A EMAIL TO HIM ASKING FOR DETAILS SUCH AS:
WHERE THE HELL IS OUR UCC FILING OFFICE.
I WAS THINKING OF DROPPING OFF MY UCC FS AT A DISTIRCT COURT(local)
BUT I AM UNSURE OF THE PROCEDURE OF GETTING THEM TO STAMP IT AND STUFF.
DO I JUST WALTZE ON IN THERE AND SAY "HEY BABY STAMP THIS FOR ME"
OR DO I SAY SOMETHING LIKE "I NEED AN AFFIDAVIT FOR THIS UCC FS?"
I DONT KNOW, ENLIGHTENMENT ALWAYS APPRECIATED
NOW THE BUSINESS OF THE FRNS, WE DONT HAVE FRNS... THE MAJOR BANK IN NEW ZEALAND WHICH PRINTS OUR MONEY IS CALLED THE RESERVE BANK OF NEW ZEALAND, NOW UNDER HOUSE JOINT RESO, IM WONDERING DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH NEW ZEALAND, DOES ANY OF THAT PUBLIC POLICY STUFF HAVE ANYTHING TO DO OUTSIDE USA. IS HJR A SUPREME COURT DECISION? DOES HJR HAVE A EQUAVALENT IN ENGLAND OR IS IT GOOD WORLD WIDE?I DONT KNOW.
ALL I DO KNOW IS THAT THE UCC DOES AND HAS TO EXIST HERE IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER.
I NOTICED WITH MANY OF THE B.O.E'S AND OTHER FORMS U CITE CERTAIN US CODES WITH REFERANCE TO PUBLIC POLICY OR TO THAT EFFECT. THOSE R NO GOOD TO ME CAUSE THERE NOT NZ LAWS.(i think)
I CANT SAY WETHER IT ITS BENEFICIAL OR NOT BUT WE HAVE NO WRITTEN CONSTITUTION.
TO ME ITS LIKE A HUGE ASS CESSPOOL OF ****E THAT THE CROWN JUST MUMBLED TOGETHER AND WALA!!! 2 MINUTE NOODLE LAW!!!
BUT I HAVE FAITH!!!
ONE LAST THING , DO U UZE A BOE FOR CAR LOANS AND STUFF.AND LIKE SELL UR CAR FOR MONEY AND DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN? OR IS THAT EVIL?
QUITE A PICKLE, BUT I WONT GIVE UP.
THEY MAY TAKE OUR LAND AND OUR LIVES BUT THEY CANNOT TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!
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07-08-2005, 09:47 PM
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Kia ora...
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
You have the Bill of Exchange Act; the Securities Act. Take a very close look at the International Finance Agreements Act. Your equivalent of the UCC filing is at www.ppsr.govt.nz and perhaps some related sites. Apparently filing is only available online [requiring credit card or bank account]. But who knows there might still be a paper door--call them. Land related and "motor vehicle" related filings are also available through that site even though they are respectively through separate sites (and offices).
If you go to treasury.govt.nz and look under legislation, you should find a long list of potentially Treasury-related legislation.
Cheers.
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07-08-2005, 09:48 PM
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Hi Kiwi,
How are things in New Zealand anyway? Do you guys have income taxes? Driver Licenses? BAR attorneys? Traffice tickets? When did your country go off the gold standard?... if it ever had one....
One interesting thing I heard about New Zealand was that you all actually have cars that run on hydrogen over there. Not those fuel cell cars, internal combustion engines. You also have hydrogen filling stations. Is this true?
KT
P.S. You might want to check your "Caps Lock" button ;)
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07-08-2005, 10:18 PM
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Sui Juris International???
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Originally Posted by KIWI guy
I NOTICED WITH MANY OF THE B.O.E'S AND OTHER FORMS U CITE CERTAIN US CODES WITH REFERANCE TO PUBLIC POLICY OR TO THAT EFFECT. THOSE R NO GOOD TO ME CAUSE THERE NOT NZ LAWS.(i think)
THEY MAY TAKE OUR LAND AND OUR LIVES BUT THEY CANNOT TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!
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http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?t=2929
NZ could be part of that treaty above
P.S. Do you guys really eat koala burgers??
Or do they just taste like chicken?
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07-08-2005, 10:28 PM
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For Australia..
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
For Australia you might look at the following:
Bills of Sale Act 1898 <<
Registration of Interests in Goods Act 1986 <<
Sale of Goods Act [N.Z. has something like this too] <<
Credit Act
Financial Agreement Act
Judgment Creditors’ Remedies Act 1901 [relevancy?]
Public Authorities (Financial Arrangements) Regulation
Public Authorities (Financial Arrangements) Act
Also:
To my knowledge, NEW ZEALAND and AUSTRALIA are signatories or what-have-you to the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods which may be relevant.
And nope N.Z. did not adopt the UNCITRAL "international payments" deal. But there are these things known as "choice of law", "comity" and "situs".
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07-08-2005, 10:33 PM
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Adju
WHOA
Just a big hurrah for the bros who left all that info and so quick!thumbs up
ok where to start
hmm
there r as many hydro cars as there are orcs in NZ,so there are a few hydro cars but there for the orcs! no hydro stations only in mordor! ,hmm capslock fixed, no koala or kangaroo burgers here im in NZ not OZ lol
Man that ppsr settled heaps but i was hoping i wouldnt have to go through there cause id rather have a big UCC on my PPSR instead! and about the gold standard, i dont know much bout that, this cpu sux and is slow, so searching is stressful lol.
Still ill keep u in touch with wat i find, where do u find all these ACTS and so forth i cand find jack and im in the country!
That BOE link was perfect, as long as NZ is still part of the UN sweet.
oh yeah THX again.
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