Strawman is used ONLY for FRAUD!

[Lawyerdude]

All this strawman talk is nonsense. Throughout history, a strawman has been used for one thing and one thing only: Perpetration of Fraud.
In the so-called "patriot community" the fraud is perpetrated FIRST by those who sell the bogus straw man literature. The former leaders of this movement are where they belong: in prison. Then the strawman is used as an attempt to perpetrate a fraud upon creditors - often an ex-wife who is simply trying to obtain child support.
Hey, here's a thought: If you want to learn about the law, buy a book written by a lawyer - not a ring binder copied by a high school dropout.

"In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate, yet equally important, groups: the police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories."

In the criminal justice system, defendants are represented by two completely different types of lawyer: Group 1 is typified by the Public Defenders who never write anything, exist to make deals, and are obsequious members of the state bar. Of group 2 there is only 1: Lawyerdude is the New Paradigm, a prolific multi-jurisdictional computer/ internet-driven lawyer who has passed the bar exam and refuses to let the bar infringe on his 1st and 6th amendment rights! This super defender sees state bars as burdens on interstate commerce. He wins cases without going to court! His is the only profession listed in the U.S. constitution. His mandate supervenes mere state statutes! These are his stories.
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[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Lawyerdude

All this strawman talk is nonsense. Throughout history, a strawman has been used for one thing and one thing only: Perpetration of Fraud.
In the so-called "patriot community" the fraud is perpetrated FIRST by those who sell the bogus straw man literature. The former leaders of this movement are where they belong: in prison. Then the strawman is used as an attempt to perpetrate a fraud upon creditors - often an ex-wife who is simply trying to obtain child support.
Hey, here's a thought: If you want to learn about the law, buy a book written by a lawyer - not a ring binder copied by a high school dropout.

"In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate, yet equally important, groups: the police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories."

In the criminal justice system, defendants are represented by two completely different types of lawyer: Group 1 is typified by the Public Defenders who never write anything, exist to make deals, and are obsequious members of the state bar. Of group 2 there is only 1: Lawyerdude is the New Paradigm, a prolific multi-jurisdictional computer/ internet-driven lawyer who has passed the bar exam and refuses to let the bar infringe on his 1st and 6th amendment rights! This super defender sees state bars as burdens on interstate commerce. He wins cases without going to court! His is the only profession listed in the U.S. constitution. His mandate supervenes mere state statutes! These are his stories.
http://www.circuitlawyer.8m.com/traffic.html

It could be nonsense to you, go tell that to bureaucrat who set it up as fiction or assumed name whatever you want to call it instead of your father, and mother given name in all lower cases.

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by Lawyerdude

All this strawman talk is nonsense. Throughout history, a strawman has been used for one thing and one thing only: Perpetration of Fraud.
In the so-called "patriot community" the fraud is perpetrated FIRST by those who sell the bogus straw man literature. The former leaders of this movement are where they belong: in prison. Then the strawman is used as an attempt to perpetrate a fraud upon creditors - often an ex-wife who is simply trying to obtain child support.
Hey, here's a thought: If you want to learn about the law, buy a book written by a lawyer - not a ring binder copied by a high school dropout.

"In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate, yet equally important, groups: the police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories."

In the criminal justice system, defendants are represented by two completely different types of lawyer: Group 1 is typified by the Public Defenders who never write anything, exist to make deals, and are obsequious members of the state bar. Of group 2 there is only 1: Lawyerdude is the New Paradigm, a prolific multi-jurisdictional computer/ internet-driven lawyer who has passed the bar exam and refuses to let the bar infringe on his 1st and 6th amendment rights! This super defender sees state bars as burdens on interstate commerce. He wins cases without going to court! His is the only profession listed in the U.S. constitution. His mandate supervenes mere state statutes! These are his stories.
http://www.circuitlawyer.8m.com/traffic.html

WITHOUT PREJUDICE
So are you admitting that you/they are out to defraud us?

[idknow]

Originally Posted by Lawyerdude

All this strawman talk is nonsense. Throughout history, a strawman has been used for one thing and one thing only: Perpetration of Fraud.
In the so-called "patriot community" the fraud is perpetrated FIRST by those who sell the bogus straw man literature. The former leaders of this movement are where they belong: in prison. Then the strawman is used as an attempt to perpetrate a fraud upon creditors - often an ex-wife who is simply trying to obtain child support.
Hey, here's a thought: If you want to learn about the law, buy a book written by a lawyer - not a ring binder copied by a high school dropout.

"In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate, yet equally important, groups: the police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories."

In the criminal justice system, defendants are represented by two completely different types of lawyer: Group 1 is typified by the Public Defenders who never write anything, exist to make deals, and are obsequious members of the state bar. Of group 2 there is only 1: Lawyerdude is the New Paradigm, a prolific multi-jurisdictional computer/ internet-driven lawyer who has passed the bar exam and refuses to let the bar infringe on his 1st and 6th amendment rights! This super defender sees state bars as burdens on interstate commerce. He wins cases without going to court! His is the only profession listed in the U.S. constitution. His mandate supervenes mere state statutes! These are his stories.
http://www.circuitlawyer.8m.com/traffic.html

ya know, I've read the above several times already, and I could swear that the above is the voice-over introduction to at least one NBC-TV criminal series!

I cant be sure though as I dont watch them...
can some one check me on that?

wouldn't that be intersting if LawyerDude plagerised that introduction and made it seem like he's the author of it?

LOL

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by idknow

ya know, I've read the above several times already, and I could swear that the above is the voice-over introduction to at least one NBC-TV criminal series!

I cant be sure though as I dont watch them...
can some one check me on that?

wouldn't that be intersting if LawyerDude plagerised that introduction and made it seem like he's the author of it?

LOL

WITHOUT PREJUDICE
You are correct. "Law & Order" even.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

WITHOUT PREJUDICE
You are correct. "Law & Order" even.

ah HAH! plagerist!

unn! got him.

LOLOLOL

FullTitle, excellent eye! and thanks!

[bridge of sighs]

The signature line on the fictions private checks that come from the banks, which says in micro print AUTHORIZED SIGNATURE. Sums it up for me. Best way to hide a secret is put out in the open.

[planetmark]

Originally Posted by Lawyerdude

Then the strawman is used as an attempt to perpetrate a fraud upon creditors - often an ex-wife who is simply trying to obtain child support.

Now we really know what Lawyerdude is. He is a child abuser who defends a system that rapes families and destroys children in order to line their pockets with luxuries.

As if the ex is a "creditor". THAT is the fraud.

Creditor:
A person (or institution) who extends credit by giving permission to borrow money if he or she promises to pay it back at a later date.

Debt:
Something owed, such as money, goods, or services.

So, let me get this straight. The wife bails out because she is no longer "happy", kidnaps the children, falsley accuses the husband, and viola! She has just extended him credit, allowing him to borrow money from the welfare system to pay her expenses while she is trying to put him in jail, and for all his trouble he now has the privledge of paying back this new "debt". Got it. Makes perfect sense.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Lawyerdude

Throughout history, a strawman has been used for one thing and one thing only: Perpetration of Fraud.

Those who have looked into the strawman argument would certainly agree; the strawman is being used by the creators of the strawman to do exactly that.

[logos]

Originally Posted by Lawyerdude

All this strawman talk is nonsense.

An attorney has admitted to me otherwise. See an old post of mine on this and other related matters. She also stated the real nature of the legal system is not taught in law school.

Originally Posted by Lawyerdude

Hey, here's a thought: If you want to learn about the law, buy a book written by a lawyer - not a ring binder copied by a high school dropout.

More truth about the true nature of the legal system has been discovered and revealed by "high school dropouts" than will probably ever be revealed by any bar admitted attorney, so I'd take whatever an attorney has to say cum grano salis. I doubt any attorney in his right mind will tell the truth--again, assuming he knows it--if he values his career. In all fairness why should he? No one would believe him, the truth is so bizarre.