because i dont know, i ask...

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[weishaupt1776]

I posted in this forum a title called UNCITRAL.

This allows International BOE's. The problems people run into is that they may discharge a debt with it, bu the alleged creditors/drawees come back after them for the alleged debt again or they pretend that it wasn't discharged, but never return the bill.

So you can Mr. Banking/UCC guru all you want, but that knowledge and courage isn't going to keep these people from secretly cheating you

However you could tender it in court so that there is an open record of it

[logos]

Upon reading it, the Convention appears to be an uber UCC Article 3. One must study it carefully, though. I've found that things one might take for granted, e.g. presentment for acceptance and protest upon dishonor when using FBoE's, must be requested per the Convention.

Re theft of our instruments: the only solution--apart from making the instruments trackable via MICR line or some other feature--may be to secure the payee's stipulation that the instrument is sufficient as to form, substance, and amount should the matter later devolve into a courtroom puppet show. We all know El-Judgo won't touch the money issue with a ten-foot gavel.

Originally Posted by logos

Upon reading it, the Convention appears to be an uber UCC Article 3. One must study it carefully, though. I've found that things one might take for granted, e.g. presentment for acceptance and protest upon dishonor when using FBoE's, must be requested per the Convention.

Re theft of our instruments: the only solution--apart from making the instruments trackable via MICR line or some other feature--may be to secure the payee's stipulation that the instrument is sufficient as to form, substance, and amount should the matter later devolve into a courtroom puppet show. We all know El-Judgo won't touch the money issue with a ten-foot gavel.

wies, logos

Art 3 on ROIDS!!!!! and i slowed down to read it almost page for page, yes MUCH STUDY is needed but damn ya no? somethin like this and (but not necessary ucc art 3) and it would SEEM to leave them no room to move AT ALL. ill be rereadin this most of the night. thanks a million...erm let me give you a BoE on that *grins*

Originally Posted by logos

Upon reading it, the Convention appears to be an uber UCC Article 3. One must study it carefully, though. I've found that things one might take for granted, e.g. presentment for acceptance and protest upon dishonor when using FBoE's, must be requested per the Convention.

Re theft of our instruments: the only solution--apart from making the instruments trackable via MICR line or some other feature--may be to secure the payee's stipulation that the instrument is sufficient as to form, substance, and amount should the matter later devolve into a courtroom puppet show. We all know El-Judgo won't touch the money issue with a ten-foot gavel.

wies, logos

Art 3 on ROIDS!!!!! and i slowed down to read it almost page for page, yes MUCH STUDY is needed but damn ya no? somethin like this would SEEM to leave them no room to move AT ALL. ill be rereadin this most of the night. thanks a million...erm let me give you a BoE on that *grins*

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

I posted in this forum a title called UNCITRAL.
This allows International BOE's. The problems people run into is that they may discharge a debt with it, bu the alleged creditors/drawees come back after them for the alleged debt again or they pretend that it wasn't discharged, but never return the bill. So you can Mr. Banking/UCC guru all you want, but that knowledge and courage isn't going to keep these people from secretly cheating you

However you could tender it in court so that there is an open record of it

weis...another option would be to have a notary send it to the payee, wouldnt it? that way you have a record of it that could BE taken into court. justa thought. thanks again for the info

[dadmoonbunny]

Originally Posted by str8razor

weis...another option would be to have a notary send it to the payee, wouldnt it? that way you have a record of it that could BE taken into court. justa thought. thanks again for the info

In the middle of a court case, I have sent via registered mail, signature required, a BOE and demand for remedy, then also I filed a copy in the local district court as to what I sent, including a cover affidavit attesting to what was sent along with the postage number. I realize it is two steps, but would this not also cover your 6?

Sic Gorgiamus Alus Subjuctatos Nunc

Originally Posted by dadmoonbunny

In the middle of a court case, I have sent via registered mail, signature required, a BOE and demand for remedy, then also I filed a copy in the local district court as to what I sent, including a cover affidavit attesting to what was sent along with the postage number. I realize it is two steps, but would this not also cover your 6?

to the DmB,

i have limited understanding on this subject what happenes if one gits arrested for the followin,no tags no head gear no insurance no registation and speedin, (yes i have done all of these and won.) then to use the BoE to bond outta jail win the case and here im unclear again. if one were to give them cash or check theyd git the money back, what do you get back in this case, anything? anyone