Acceptance for value

[Ice]

I think it is important to note that the UCC is the bankers playground. And we have something that is more powerful -- "The Supreme Law of the Land".



The choice is to see if you can get a "private" deal with the bankers in their sandbox or use the Supreme Law of the Land to spank them.



I don't cotton to making deals with the devil using his rules. I play by OUR rules... the ones that state we have GOD GIVEN RIGHTS... and that they are protected and guaranteed.

[redpilltaker]

I do enjoy the exhchange of ideas here at the forum...and like I said...I understand both of these "opposing" views...and I have empathy for both...



I feel as though it is a God given gift to be able to see things from different perspective, and understand that there are many arenas in this life that we must opporate in/from...I am not bragging, it is a gift....I feel confident that most folks that participate in this forum also have the gift....



As for me, I am still learning, watching, waiting until it all sinks into an intuitive understand before I move too aggressively....



As you can see, I make no bones about why Redemption appeals to me....but, that doesn't mean that knowledge of the law is not important....please consider this...the "system" will be forced to tip its hat to each Individual that sees and hears and percieves the correct reality...the sign on their doors says, "NONE SHALL PASS"...but we have a key. Now I am just trying all the locks that my gift of a key will open up. I will try every one that I come upon. Remember, THE PLAN includes a minority, not a majority...it is not my plan, but I must defer to the Designer...you will not be able to convince the majority of the Truth...again, some may consider my position pessimistic or fatalistic...but there is a freedom in knowing that God is in control....do you hear me...God is in control...He is the Soveriegn that ALL will bow before...



To all, keep up the mind expanding thoughts and perspectives...that is the our lot for now, as we are expected to constantly grow while we are here in this phase of our lives...



I will be around...



I am thankful to be in contact and the company of minds that frequent this forum...Please just remember that we are not really sovereign per the latin definition of the Sui Juris phrase....ALL creatures great and small answer to the Father....



His Peace to you,



RPT

THIS IS A GREAT FORUM AND I BELIEVE THERE'S PLENTY OF GREAT INFORMATION TO LEARN FROM. I APPRECIATE ALL THE GREAT INPUT BY SEASONED MEMBERS SUCH AS ICE AND JERSEE.



HOWEVER, THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S BEGINNING TO

RUIN IT FOR ME. THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONSTANT BARRAGE OF RELIGIOUS ENDOCTRINATION FROM SOME OF THE NEWER MEMBERS.



LAST TIME I CHECKED, THIS FORUM PROVIDED A RELIGIOUS SECTION WHERE YOU CAN POST ANYTHING PERTAINING TO ONE'S PERSONAL BELIEFS.



ALSO, I TEND TO AGREE WITH ICE ON USING THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND TO HAVE MORE POSITIVE RESULTS AGAINST THE BANKSTERS.

[KaosTheory]

PJT04,



Everything that we are talking about revolves around the fact that we are the creation of a Holy and Just Creator. You can't separate what we are talking about from the one who created it all.



KT

[redpilltaker]

Sorry PJT04,



Yes, it is obvious that I am new to the forum...and I will tell you that I took the red pill just about two years ago...still new to the truth...but I couldn't ever go back...



I hope that you are not presuming that the UN-seasoned members have less of a grip on reality...this forum has lotsa answers and plenty of food for thought and research!



Its not indoctrination....it is perspective...a view of the world we live in...Some people believe that there is a line in their lives, others don't...this particular thread was probably less theological than it may seem at first glance...it has to do with perspectives...not forcing a particular belief system...every perspective is rooted in certain presumptions and assumptions...



Again, no offense intended, it is just that some of us don't have that "line"....this IS Me....hope any disagreements can be overlooked and overcome....





-RPT



PS Woops! KT got one in there on me!

REDPILL & KAOS,

MY COMMENT WAS AIMED AT STICKING TO THE ISSUES AT HAND HERE. WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW AND HOW TO BETTER DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST THE CORRUPT BANKING SYSTEM.



I'VE VISITED OTHER FORUMS WHERE PEOPLE START TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL SAVIORS, UFO'S AND THE SUPERNATURAL AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN THE WHOLE

THREAD TURNS INTO A JOKE. THE WHOLE NESARA MOVEMENT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT PLAN UNTIL YOU GET TO HEAR ITS LEADER "THE DOVE OF ONESS". SHE CLAIMS WE HAVE "FRIENDLY ALIENS" WORKING FOR US HUMANS THAT WILL CHANGE THE BANKING LAWS IN OUR FAVOR.



I THINK SUIJURIS.NET IS DOING A GREAT JOB SO FAR AT KEEPING THIS FROM HAPPENING. I CONSIDER THIS FORUM A SERIOUS SOURCE OF INFORMATION. NO SPAM OR RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDA IS THE BEST POLICY IN MY OPINION.

[suijuris]

I think it is sufficient to say, the UCC forum should be used to discuss the UCC, the Court forum to discuss the Court system, etc.



I have noticed that a lot of spiritual/religous theology being posted/debated in forums other than the Religion forum recently, and it has concerned me. If one must to read through or enter into a discussion on personal religous beliefs to get to the original topic, if it even exists after matters of one's personal faith and religion are drawn in, then the purpose of this site and it's various topics is lost. If one is looking to give or recieve spiritual enlightenment, they should be able to do so it in the appropriate forum and not have it forced upon them elsewhere.



I am not pointing fingers or berating anyone for discussing their spiritual/religous beliefs out of topic, but it is definately something that needs to stop before the forums loose all direction whatsoever.



I believe we are all born equal, with the same rights and freedoms, and one's spiritual/religous beliefs are a prerequisite for accessing those rights in this country or on suijuris. So please, let us focus on how to protect these rights in the appropriate places, and focus on spiritual enlightenment in the Religous forum.

[redpilltaker]

Everything is cool with me...





I made some comments over in the religion section....



Be good!



RPT

[suijuris]

RPT, sorry if you felt that my post was directed at you in general - it was not. See my response in the other thread you started...

"Silence is acceptance by acquiesence."



Yeah right (?) Then why don't they stop bothering the hell out of us?



Even AFTER getting a letter saying they will comply with the "no call, write, etc." of the validation request, they are doing their damndest to BOTHER at work AND at home !!!



Who "gives a damn" and how does THAT (entity) put a stop to it ???