cannot register all-caps trademark name

[KITCHIE]

If you want to get your trade name in the public record go to your County Commission or City Counsel meetings, and state for the record who you are.

Every time I go to the county Commission meeting I state during Public Comment...
"For the record my name is Katherine Elizabeth Snedigar, I am a living self-conscious being, I am not a legal fiction, I live in Washoe County I am not a resident of Washoe County."

Read a part of your tradename info into the record and provide each member of the counsel or commission a copy of your tradename paper and be sure to provide one to the County(City) clerk. Then go get a certified copy of your puclic record and file it where ever you want.

Kitchie

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by KITCHIE

If you want to get your trade name in the public record go to your County Commission or City Counsel meetings, and state for the record who you are.

Every time I go to the county Commission meeting I state during Public Comment...
"For the record my name is Katherine Elizabeth Snedigar, I am a living self-conscious being, I am not a legal fiction, I live in Washoe County I am not a resident of Washoe County."

Read a part of your tradename info into the record and provide each member of the counsel or commission a copy of your tradename paper and be sure to provide one to the County(City) clerk. Then go get a certified copy of your puclic record and file it where ever you want.

Kitchie

What is your registered trade-name?

Originally Posted by David Merrill

This may be helpful. On May 2, a suitor was told the SoS would no longer give out Certificates of Fact on oaths that they did not have on file. The staff even informed him it was because the Attorney General John Suthers might be angry enough to think it actionable to provide that kind of information to people. [In fact providing it to me in 1996 saw John Suthers suddenly resigning the day after I filed it into the State district court case; him prosecutor after running a vacant District Attorney office for eight years.]

I suggested that the suitor return to the SoS the next day carrying the mission statement of the SoS and demand the Certificate. Not only that, but he let them know he was intending to on May 2 before he left the SoS office. They called him on his way out of Denver saying John Suthers had faxed over an oath but it was not filed so they could not officially provide it. He held his ground that he would be demanding a Certificate the next day when he returned to Denver.

The SoS provided the oath you see here. Suthers only had 30 days by law to get the oath filed so by the Colorado constitution he is running a vacant office and by principal and agent relationship, all the District Attorneys under the vacant Attorney General are as well.

http://Friends-n-Family-Research.inf...9;_AG_oath.jpg

However I disagree with the Strawman approach. That is the name on your birth certificate, no? So what do you think you are doing? It is stupid to re-register it and besides, if somebody were to try using the STRAWMAN against you (which they are not - you solely use it against yourself and pseudonomania prevents you from recognizing true cause-and-effect) then you could just get a Certificate of Fact from the SoS saying that it is not a registered corporation: That that corporation is not allowed to operate in the State of XXXXXXX!* This is the insanity bred into our perceptions and conditioning by the paranoid delirium of the people who invented that convention model about the Strawman. I am simply pointing out how to get the Secretary of State to do his or her job of registering corporations.


Regards,

David Merrill.


* There are rumors that you can bill somebody for using the Strawman (copyright infringement etc). And that billing can lead to liens. The theory sounds great but you will be hard-pressed to find any success stories about this process.

I am not sure exactly what you are saying here; that I should not bother to trademark my STRAWMAN name?

And if I should, how does it relate to the above story that you have recounted; forcing the SoS to allow me to trademark my STRAWMAN name?

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by legalII

I am not sure exactly what you are saying here; that I should not bother to trademark my STRAWMAN name?

And if I should, how does it relate to the above story that you have recounted; forcing the SoS to allow me to trademark my STRAWMAN name?

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My name is David Merrill. I have a suggested tradename registered in commerce with the corporation State of Colorado. The Secretary of State is for registering the opening of any subsequent corporations under it. "CAPITAL INTEGRATION INC." for example. DAVID MERRILL VAN PELT is already awaiting my use. It is attached to me through the original bank note being novation from the soil onto paper fiction:

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http://friends-n-family-research.inf...ification2.jpg

[Note the little footprints on the backside I presume are from my little feet.]

If I do not use it, it does not exist. If JRB or some other clown uses it, that is identity theft, criminal impersonation etc. and may be actionable criminally and/or civilly.

What I proposed was that you are the one using the fiction - not them. I could be wrong about that but in the seldom instance they would use it without you entering it onto the record somehow, the moment you asserted an improper arraignment they would all back down. If you look at whatever government-issued ID card you carry in your wallet and see the legal name expressed FIRST M. LAST or the like, then it is pretty clear to me you are entering it onto the record whenever you pull out that card for ID.


Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. For the second question; I am simply staying on the subject matter of the thread according to the title.

David Merrill said....




"What I proposed was that you are the one using the fiction - not them. I could be wrong about that but in the seldom instance they would use it without you entering it onto the record somehow, the moment you asserted an improper arraignment they would all back down."


I agreee, in a sense. We have 'voluntarily' used our STRAWMAN.

However, how does one get a loan, a licnesne of any kind, a utilities account etc?

We do not request that they put our name in ALL CAPS; it is they that do it.

So, why not have a fail safe for when we want to enforce it and leave it alone when we want to voluntarily use it (when we contract with any company, which all use the STRAWMAN name) for our benefit?

[KITCHIE]

David,

I have not registered my trade name yet. However I am going to register my County Commissioner's trade name...BOB LARKIN who took the oath of office. Robert M. Larkin signed the Oath.

I am going to register his name (for 20 FRN) and then tell him he cant use it! The County clerk will have to show me where in the legislature they were given permission to have internal policies that are not part of her job description nor are they spelled out in the statutes. If she doesn't perform...I sue her for malfeasance of office.

Kitchie

I have just gotten off the phone with the SoS of my state and it appears that I will be allowed to file my application for trademark of my ALL CAPS name.

She also stipualted that it wood be accepted pending a legal review by cousel for the SoS office.

All I had to do was provide 3 examples of how the tradename is used....lets see, an electric bill, a gas bill, a drivers licesnse, etc...

I jokingly told her that if I have to file suit to enforce my right to trademark my STRAWMAN, that the very copies of the subpoenas would be used as evidence of use of my tradename/trdemark; ie., the subpoenas would be in ALL CAPS....lol

Also, KITCHIE, this is why your method would not work.

You would have to provide the SoS office with 3 exmaples of how you use your STRAWMAN name.

I dont think that you would be able to do that for someone else's name.

But, not a bad idea! lol!

[David Merrill]

We do not request that they put our name in ALL CAPS; it is they that do it.

Nope. It is you that does it.

So, why not have a fail safe for when we want to enforce it and leave it alone when we want to voluntarily use it (when we contract with any company, which all use the STRAWMAN name) for our benefit?

You have been mistaught about the entire thing altogether. I got into that same argument with another member recently so forget it. That Strawman stuff is so screwed up people get wrapped around the axle about it. Pseudonomania. People become compulsive liars and don't even know their own names.

I was only posting so that you can get the SoS to do his or her job. That's all. I certainly do not agree with the crud about the Strawman being invented or even used by government agencies.

Originally Posted by David Merrill

Nope. It is you that does it.




You have been mistaught about the entire thing altogether. I got into that same argument with another member recently so forget it. That Strawman stuff is so screwed up people get wrapped around the axle about it. Pseudonomania. People become compulsive liars and don't even know their own names.

I was only posting so that you can get the SoS to do his or her job. That's all. I certainly do not agree with the crud about the Strawman being invented or even used by government agencies.

I could not disagree with you more.

When I fill out paperwork, my name is put in both upper case and lower case letters, most of the time.

When I get the paperwork back, it is in ALL CAPS.

Now one could say that by contracting with a company, one should know this. However, to this I say, that in the contract it is not stipulated that the paperwork will come back using my STRAWMAN where my name would be.


Not knowing which side of the tracks you are on with regard to the STRAWMAN issue, I will assume you are the side that is trying to dissuade ppl from pursuing it.

I have been in enuf forums to know that some who are supposedly pro- an issue, are really anti-, but disguise themselves by mixing in some truth on minor issues of the topic and being disingenuos on the core issue, which is in this case trademarking and recaputuring of ones STRAWMAN.

In that vein, the reader is left to his own research and common sense to discern what is truth and what is reality, which in many, if not all cases is quuite different.

The law is always twisted to favor those who make them and have the power. Once the 'plebe' discovers the 'secret', suddenly, it is no longer valid or useful.

I rest my case.

NOTE: I always capitalize the words ALL CAPS and STRAWMAN to illustrate what is meant and make it somewhat easier and faster for the novice reading here what is meant.

[David Merrill]

That is not your name anyway; it is an artifice called full or legal name.

I could not disagree with you more.

When I fill out paperwork, my name is put in both upper case and lower case letters, most of the time.

When I get the paperwork back, it is in ALL CAPS.

Of course you disagree. Without a truthful and sound sense of identity, then you cannot properly fathom relationships (contracts).

Look on whatever you are using for ID. Is it all upper case letters for a name? If otherwise, then I apologize. I only intended to help get the SoS to fulfil the mission statement with my anecdote about vacant "Attorney General" John Suthers.