Releasing Prisoners VIA IBOE

[mrg]

Originally Posted by sheisaceo

International Bill of Exchange.
International Bank of England.

There is no difference.

Is this NOT a claim?

Prove it, I wrote.

I have seen no proof of claim.

What is the entity titled "International Bank of England." and where may I verify the existence such institution thus precisely titled?

How, precisely "is" "there" "no difference" between the exact instrument referred to, and the precisely titled institution referred to?

Is that not ALL I requested?

[mrg]

Originally Posted by freemyggle

This may help quell the drama.
http://www.jus.uio.no/lm/un.bills.of...988/doc.html#1

What "drama?"

Is someone presenting a dramatic production here?

And how precisely is that link supposed to "quell" anything?

Is somebody talking to himself again and jerking people around?

[mrg]

Originally Posted by mrg

Prove it.

Originally Posted by rentiap

Actually I think it proves it's self within it's own writings.

http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/43/a43r165.htm

Are you saying that the UN General Assembly is "The International Bank of England?

I did not see that name mentioned in the link.

How does this link prove that:

Originally Posted by sheisaceo

International Bill of Exchange.
International Bank of England.

There is no difference.

[essentialer]

Originally Posted by kgod999

well, ill be you know what. i looked up a conviction and found that the court sold it and i found the cusip number! i am gonna release details but i will find a more secure means of doing so outside of this forum. and get this, the bond was merged with a investment dating back to the 1930's. now, for all you sceptics, i have the personal proof in my hands of what me and david and others been trying to get across. they are making money left and right with birth certificates, ssns, judgments, anything where they can setup a account.and why did they merge it with a investment dating back that far? you know why, thats when they starting selling the convictions right along the time of the new deal and bankruptcy. oh, it fits so neat. i even found the corporations that have invested in this particular bond and one of them is merrill lynch, just like jean keating said. i looked over 20 times at the numbers and i be damn, the court done made money off a conviction.

Would you please share with me privately how you found your exact bond, and how one may effect the release of a prisoner using that information? I was only able to find the cusip numbers for mutual funds that contain some case numbers, but not the individual bonds themselves. I do work for prisoners, I am using the BIC process, but I don't see it doing what we want it to do. I agree that it does not do any good to do a set off with the court, we need to get our hands on the bonds themselves. We have written to Dept. of Transportation regarding the bonds without any success. I am currently waiting for a reply from the DOT regarding a request for a copy of an invoice regarding the debt based on the constitutional right to repley the obligation, as I was told if you can get the invoice you can do a set off via the DOT, which would then goes to Congress and the Sec. of Treas. I would appreciate whatever assistance you would be willing to give me. Please contact me privately at essentialer@hotmail.com. Thank you so much.

[ThomPaine]

I have a contact who has been successful in helping to release tax prisoners via IBOEs. The bonds are somewhere in the range of 300-500 million dollars per prisoner. I have a basic understanding of the process, but would be interested in details from kgod if he can provide them privately or otherwise outside this forum..

thanks in advance,

Thom

[Shoonra]

I cannot imagine this being possible. Once someone is sent to prison - presumably for tax evasion or tax fraud in these instances - mere payment of money, even real money, won't get them out. Much less funny money like homebrew BoEs.

Perhaps your contact could provide the names of some satisfied customers.

[robhalford88]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

I cannot imagine this being possible. Once someone is sent to prison - presumably for tax evasion or tax fraud in these instances - mere payment of money, even real money, won't get them out. Much less funny money like homebrew BoEs.

Perhaps your contact could provide the names of some satisfied customers.

It is possible, I know of someone who has done it, but we wouldn't tell you jack.

impudentnugget

[essentialer]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

I cannot imagine this being possible. Once someone is sent to prison - presumably for tax evasion or tax fraud in these instances - mere payment of money, even real money, won't get them out. Much less funny money like homebrew BoEs.

Perhaps your contact could provide the names of some satisfied customers.

Funny money is all there is. There is no "real" money. You think a FRN is worth more than a bond? Think again. Paper is paper, unless it is redeemable in gold. Your signature on a note or bond creates credit, which is what this country operates on.

As for a prisoner being released on the payment of said instrument, the reason he is in prison is because he did not settle and close the case, i.e., pay off the value of the judgment. He was put in prison as surety on the security which was created based on the judgment, and which was then sold to an investment company, which then sells it to others. You don't hear about it, and the courts will not admit it, because it is securities fraud. Heads would roll if it became public knowledge. Is the judge or the court administrator going to admit they are part of a crime syndicate? I don't think so.

[essentialer]

Originally Posted by robhalford88

It is possible, I know of someone who has done it, but we wouldn't tell you jack.

impudentnugget

I, too, know it is possible. I have spoken with prisoners who told me that someone in their unit did a CAFV and was released. Would you and your friend consider telling me about what he did? If so, I'll give you my personal email. I know the BIC process and the CAFV process, but I am looking for the key to the last door, the actual release.

[essentialer]

Originally Posted by ThomPaine

I have a contact who has been successful in helping to release tax prisoners via IBOEs. The bonds are somewhere in the range of 300-500 million dollars per prisoner. I have a basic understanding of the process, but would be interested in details from kgod if he can provide them privately or otherwise outside this forum..

thanks in advance,

Thom

I would be interested in speaking with your friend to find out what he is doing differently than I am, if that is possible. If so, I'll give you my personal email. Thank you.